Re: Next steps on Widgets testing?

2009-01-19 Thread Marcos Caceres


Hi Dominique, 
On 11/25/08 2:05 PM, Dominique Hazael-Massieux d...@w3.org wrote:
 Hi Art, Charles,
 
 As was discussed during the WebApps WG F2F in Cannes, the Mobile Web
 Test Suites Working Group (and in particular, Kai Hendry) has started to
 work on developing test cases for the Widgets Packaging and
 Configuration specification:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008OctDec/0235.html
 
 There are already quite a number of test cases available there (~50),
 that target well-defined part of the specifications.
 
 Could you let our group know whether you think this is going in the
 right direction, and what the next steps should be on our side?

This is going great. However, as the test suite is being built we would
appreciate feedback from a specification verification perspective: are there
assertions made that are not testable or that could be better written, and
if there is much variability in the specification? These feedback is crucial
for Web Apps if we are to improve the quality of our specifications.

Unless you guys have a better way to do this, I would like to see the
specification follow the CSS2.1 Test Case Authoring Guidelines (even if
those guidelines are not complete).
 
 Also, would it be helpful if the tests were moved to the public CVS
 server? should they sit in 2006/waf/widgets/tests/ if so?

The tests are now there. However, I think it makes more sense for if each
spec had it's own test suite. For example, tests for Widgets 1.0: Digital
Signatures would sit in 2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/, etc.

Kind regards,
Marcos 





Re: Next steps on Widgets testing?

2008-12-04 Thread Arthur Barstow


Dom,

Today, during the Widgets voice conf, we briefly discussed the  
location you proposed and we agreed with your proposal.


Regarding looking at the detailed test cases, Marcos reported he's  
done a first pass and didn't see any issues. Realistically, I don't  
believe we will do an in-depth analysis until the beginning of next  
year.


-Thanks, Art Barstow


On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:29 PM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:05:23 +0100, Dominique Hazael-Massieux  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi Art, Charles,

As was discussed during the WebApps WG F2F in Cannes, the Mobile Web
Test Suites Working Group (and in particular, Kai Hendry) has  
started to

work on developing test cases for the Widgets Packaging and
Configuration specification:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008OctDec/ 
0235.html


There are already quite a number of test cases available there (~50),
that target well-defined part of the specifications.

Could you let our group know whether you think this is going in the
right direction, and what the next steps should be on our side?


Luckily, the co-chair of the group is at Opera, so can watch both  
the test development and can look inside Opera for anything we  
should be contributing :)



Also, would it be helpful if the tests were moved to the public CVS
server? should they sit in 2006/waf/widgets/tests/ if so?


I think it's better to have tests in CVS than to have them listed  
in an attachment in a mail archive. I am not fussed about where  
they go, but your suggestion seems as good as any. I presume that  
the groups will at some point go through the tests and decide  
whether they are happy with them all...


cheers

Chaals

--
Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
http://my.opera.com/chaals   Try Opera: http://www.opera.com





Next steps on Widgets testing?

2008-11-25 Thread Dominique Hazael-Massieux

Hi Art, Charles,

As was discussed during the WebApps WG F2F in Cannes, the Mobile Web
Test Suites Working Group (and in particular, Kai Hendry) has started to
work on developing test cases for the Widgets Packaging and
Configuration specification:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008OctDec/0235.html

There are already quite a number of test cases available there (~50),
that target well-defined part of the specifications.

Could you let our group know whether you think this is going in the
right direction, and what the next steps should be on our side?

Also, would it be helpful if the tests were moved to the public CVS
server? should they sit in 2006/waf/widgets/tests/ if so?

Let me know,

Dom
Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group co-Chair





Re: Next steps on Widgets testing?

2008-11-25 Thread Charles McCathieNevile


On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:05:23 +0100, Dominique Hazael-Massieux [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




Hi Art, Charles,

As was discussed during the WebApps WG F2F in Cannes, the Mobile Web
Test Suites Working Group (and in particular, Kai Hendry) has started to
work on developing test cases for the Widgets Packaging and
Configuration specification:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008OctDec/0235.html

There are already quite a number of test cases available there (~50),
that target well-defined part of the specifications.

Could you let our group know whether you think this is going in the
right direction, and what the next steps should be on our side?


Luckily, the co-chair of the group is at Opera, so can watch both the test  
development and can look inside Opera for anything we should be  
contributing :)



Also, would it be helpful if the tests were moved to the public CVS
server? should they sit in 2006/waf/widgets/tests/ if so?


I think it's better to have tests in CVS than to have them listed in an  
attachment in a mail archive. I am not fussed about where they go, but  
your suggestion seems as good as any. I presume that the groups will at  
some point go through the tests and decide whether they are happy with  
them all...


cheers

Chaals

--
Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk
http://my.opera.com/chaals   Try Opera: http://www.opera.com