Attached here is a clean version, which will be archived.
Note that there was a lot of sidechat in IRC it is unclear how much of that
everyone in the room was aware of. I hope the minutes are a pretty accurate
record now, but if people feel otherwise I hope they say so.
I'll link this version to the meeting page in the wiki:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/WebComponentsApril2015Meeting
Dimitri, can you please forward the link to attendees who are not members of
webapps?
cheers
26.04.2015, 00:14, cha...@yandex-team.ru cha...@yandex-team.ru:
25.04.2015, 14:45, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net:
* cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
We'll post a summary - there is most of one at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hnCoaJTXkfSSHD5spISJ76nqbDcOVNMamgByiz3QWLA/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Perhaps a document in some kind of open format would be a better medium
than some proprietary application with unclear stability policies that
does not work in my browser.
The minutes (thanks to Taylor Savage fora great scribing job) are at
http://www.w3.org/2015/04/25-webapps-minutes.html
That contains just a few lines. Looks like the decade-old UTC day change
bug is still plaguing the minutes generation tool.
Sigh. Well, alternatively it is the decades-old scribe forgetting to do the
thing right… I'll put together the minutes and repost them shortly.
I've attached a rough version but I'll need to do some more cleaning because
I made a mess halfway through. The content is there and legible at least…
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cheers
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Webapps Web Components meeting
24 Apr 2015
Agenda
Attendees
Present
Chaals, Léonie, Mikeâ¢, AnnevK, Arron, Travis, Hayato, Smaug, DGlazkov, CWilso, AlexR, SamW, Maciej, TedOC, HayatoIto, Rysouke, JanMiskovsky, DomenicD, Travis_Leithead, AliceBoxhall, WilliamChen, ScottM, ErikBryn, MarkG, SteveOrvell, Misko, WilsonPage, AdamKlein, TaylorSavage, JustinF
Regrets
Chair
DGlazkov, chaals
Scribe
chaals, taylor
Contents
Topics
Introductions
State of consensus and contention
Multiple shadow roots per element
Default value of "closed shadow tree"
Imperative distribution API
Separate event retargeting from style composition
Shadow boundary piercing combinators
consensus points...
what does closed *mean*?
Event retargeting
Named slots
Styling
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
chaals scribe: chaals
Introductions
DG: Lots of people here... that's good.
... goal of the meeting is to make sure we move Web Components closer to being interoperable standard (actually shipped...)
... There are some contentious bits on Shadow DOM, and we aim to resolve that here.
... We need to determine what goes into v1 that we can all live with and ship - and put the rest into a v2
... I would like to leave here not just feeling happy, but actually going to do work and knowing what it will be.
... would like to have champions for the things that we have to do still.
... The goal is to get browsers implementing, but we need experts from the rest of the ecosystem to tell us about their experience too.
CW: Chris Wilson - mostly here to find the tea... (Googler)
RN: Ryosuke Niwa, Apple
AB: Alice Boxhall, Google accessibility - chrome
Misko: work on angular.js
OP: Olli Pettay / Smaug from mozilla
WC: William Chen, firefox
EO: Ted OConnor, Apple
HI: Hayato Ito, work on shadow dom for google and spec it
JustinF: Work on polymer
AvK: Anne, work for moz on standards
SW: Sam Weinig, Apple
MS: Mike⢠Smith, W3C
LJW: Léonie Watson, Paciello Group.
CMN: Chaals from Yandex
AE: Arron Eicholz, MS - work on webapps
TL: Travis Leithead - the MS guy
EB: Erik Bryn
MG: Mark Giffin, writing web components docs for MDN
WP: Wilson Page, working with Web Components on firefox OS
Jan: Founder of component kitchen
MJS: Maciej, webkit at Apple
AR: Alex Russell, googler on web platform
AK: Adam Klein, V8 at google
SM: Scott Miles, work on polymer team
TS: Taylor Savage, google
SO: Steve Orvell google
[polymer team people listening on the phone - we don't let them speak]
dfreedm here in irc as well
[Domenic Denicola (Google) arrived later]
State of consensus and contention
DG: Most vendors aside from Google have explained their current position...
... would like to figure out how important contentions are - blocker, useful to have, v1 or v2 or...
misko https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/wiki/Shadow-DOM:-Contentious-Bits
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