Re: Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
Also works for me.
Marcos
On Thursday, April 23, 2009, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
 A shorter counter-proposal below ...

 On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:56 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Frederick Hirsch
 frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:

 ISSUE-83 states:
 Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
 http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

 The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this issue,
 based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing policy and
 access control mechanisms to be used:

 Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with
 implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny other
 implementations access to digital signature documents unless an access
 control mechanism is in place to enable access according to policy. The
 definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of this
 specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or parts of the
 signature documents, or deny any such access. An exception is if a user
 agent that implements this specification also implements the OPTIONAL
 [Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case the user agent MUST make
 signature documents available to the implementation of the [Widgets-DigSig]
 specification.


 Added under Digital Signatures section. If Mark is happy, then we
 should close this issue.


 Proposed text:

 [[
 A user agent MUST prevent a widget from accessing the contents of
 a digital signature document unless an access control mechanism
 explicitly enables such access e.g. via an access control policy.
 The definition of such a policy mechanism is out of scope of
 this specification, but may be defined to allow access to all or
 parts of the signature documents, or deny any such access.
 ]]

 -Regards, Art Barstow





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http://datadriven.com.au



RE: Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-23 Thread Priestley, Mark, VF-Group
+1 for Art's shorter counter proposal 

Thanks,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: marcosscace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Marcos Caceres
Sent: 23 April 2009 07:47
To: Arthur Barstow
Cc: Marcos Caceres; Priestley, Mark, VF-Group; Hirsch Frederick 
(Nokia-CIC/Boston); public-webapps
Subject: Re: Proposal for ISSUE-83

Also works for me.
Marcos
On Thursday, April 23, 2009, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
 A shorter counter-proposal below ...

 On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:56 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Frederick Hirsch 
 frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:

 ISSUE-83 states:
 Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
 http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

 The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this 
 issue, based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing 
 policy and access control mechanisms to be used:

 Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with 
 implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny 
 other implementations access to digital signature documents unless an 
 access control mechanism is in place to enable access according to 
 policy. The definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of 
 this specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or 
 parts of the signature documents, or deny any such access. An 
 exception is if a user agent that implements this specification also 
 implements the OPTIONAL [Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case 
 the user agent MUST make signature documents available to the 
 implementation of the [Widgets-DigSig] specification.


 Added under Digital Signatures section. If Mark is happy, then we 
 should close this issue.


 Proposed text:

 [[
 A user agent MUST prevent a widget from accessing the contents of a 
 digital signature document unless an access control mechanism 
 explicitly enables such access e.g. via an access control policy.
 The definition of such a policy mechanism is out of scope of this 
 specification, but may be defined to allow access to all or parts of 
 the signature documents, or deny any such access.
 ]]

 -Regards, Art Barstow





--
Marcos Caceres
http://datadriven.com.au



Re: Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
 A shorter counter-proposal below ...

 On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:56 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Frederick Hirsch
 frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:

 ISSUE-83 states:
 Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
 http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

 The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this issue,
 based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing policy and
 access control mechanisms to be used:

 Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with
 implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny other
 implementations access to digital signature documents unless an access
 control mechanism is in place to enable access according to policy. The
 definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of this
 specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or parts of the
 signature documents, or deny any such access. An exception is if a user
 agent that implements this specification also implements the OPTIONAL
 [Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case the user agent MUST make
 signature documents available to the implementation of the
 [Widgets-DigSig]
 specification.

 Added under Digital Signatures section. If Mark is happy, then we
 should close this issue.

 Proposed text:

 [[
 A user agent MUST prevent a widget from accessing the contents of
 a digital signature document unless an access control mechanism
 explicitly enables such access e.g. via an access control policy.
 The definition of such a policy mechanism is out of scope of
 this specification, but may be defined to allow access to all or
 parts of the signature documents, or deny any such access.
 ]]



I've added the above text to the spec.

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http://datadriven.com.au



Re: Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-22 Thread Arthur Barstow

A shorter counter-proposal below ...

On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:56 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:


On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Frederick Hirsch
frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:

ISSUE-83 states:
Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this  
issue,
based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing policy  
and

access control mechanisms to be used:

Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with
implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny  
other
implementations access to digital signature documents unless an  
access
control mechanism is in place to enable access according to  
policy. The

definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of this
specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or parts  
of the
signature documents, or deny any such access. An exception is if a  
user

agent that implements this specification also implements the OPTIONAL
[Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case the user agent MUST make
signature documents available to the implementation of the  
[Widgets-DigSig]

specification.


Added under Digital Signatures section. If Mark is happy, then we
should close this issue.


Proposed text:

[[
A user agent MUST prevent a widget from accessing the contents of
a digital signature document unless an access control mechanism
explicitly enables such access e.g. via an access control policy.
The definition of such a policy mechanism is out of scope of
this specification, but may be defined to allow access to all or
parts of the signature documents, or deny any such access.
]]

-Regards, Art Barstow





Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-21 Thread Frederick Hirsch

ISSUE-83 states:
Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this  
issue, based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing  
policy and access control mechanisms to be used:


Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with  
implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny  
other implementations access to digital signature documents unless an  
access control mechanism is in place to enable access according to  
policy. The definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of  
this specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or  
parts of the signature documents, or deny any such access. An  
exception is if a user agent that implements this specification also  
implements the OPTIONAL [Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case  
the user agent MUST make signature documents available to the  
implementation of the [Widgets-DigSig] specification.


This message should complete ACTION-329 which should be closed.

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia






Re: Proposal for ISSUE-83

2009-04-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Frederick Hirsch
frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:
 ISSUE-83 states:
 Instantiated widget should not be able to read digital signature
 http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/83

 The following is a proposal of text to add to PC to address this issue,
 based on text from Marcos and adding the notion of allowing policy and
 access control mechanisms to be used:

 Where a user agent that implements this specification interacts with
 implementations of other specifications, this user agent MUST deny other
 implementations access to digital signature documents unless an access
 control mechanism is in place to enable access according to policy. The
 definition of such a policy mechanism is out  of scope of this
 specification, but may be defined to  allow access to all or parts of the
 signature documents, or deny any such access. An exception is if a user
 agent that implements this specification also implements the OPTIONAL
 [Widgts-DigSig] specification, in which case the user agent MUST make
 signature documents available to the implementation of the [Widgets-DigSig]
 specification.

Added under Digital Signatures section. If Mark is happy, then we
should close this issue.

Kind regards,
Marcos

-- 
Marcos Caceres
http://datadriven.com.au