RE: [selection-api] Moving toward First Public Working Draft

2014-09-26 Thread Ben Peters
Yes, the spec is ready for that (major API areas and concepts should be 
covered).

From: Kenji Baheux [mailto:kenjibah...@google.com]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:45 AM
To: Arthur Barstow
Cc: public-webapps; Ryosuke Niwa; Ben Peters
Subject: Re: [selection-api] Moving toward First Public Working Draft

Publishing an FPWD sounds reasonable.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Arthur Barstow 
mailto:art.bars...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Ryosuke, Ben, Kenji, All,

I'm looking for feedback about moving the Selection API [ED] to First Public 
Working Draft (FPWD) ...

A `rule of thumb` I generally use when considering if a spec is ready for a 
FPWD is if the feature set is mostly complete although there is no expectation 
all features are fleshed out in detail (IOW, looking for breadth mostly 
complete but not depth). The breadth question is important because a FPWD is 
also used as an "attorney snapshot" vis-à-vis the [PP]. Regarding the spec's 
open [Issues], there is no expectation a FPWD be bug/issue free (in fact, it 
would be rare if that was the case).

What are your thoughts about publishing a FPWD? Do you consider the latest ED 
to be feature complete; and if not, what major features are missing?

-Thanks, AB

[ED] http://w3c.github.io/selection-api/
[Issues] https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues
[PP] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy/



--
Kenji BAHEUX
Product Manager - Chrome
Google Japan


Re: [selection-api] Moving toward First Public Working Draft

2014-09-26 Thread Kenji Baheux
Publishing an FPWD sounds reasonable.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Arthur Barstow 
wrote:

> Hi Ryosuke, Ben, Kenji, All,
>
> I'm looking for feedback about moving the Selection API [ED] to First
> Public Working Draft (FPWD) ...
>
> A `rule of thumb` I generally use when considering if a spec is ready for
> a FPWD is if the feature set is mostly complete although there is no
> expectation all features are fleshed out in detail (IOW, looking for
> breadth mostly complete but not depth). The breadth question is important
> because a FPWD is also used as an "attorney snapshot" vis-à-vis the [PP].
> Regarding the spec's open [Issues], there is no expectation a FPWD be
> bug/issue free (in fact, it would be rare if that was the case).
>
> What are your thoughts about publishing a FPWD? Do you consider the latest
> ED to be feature complete; and if not, what major features are missing?
>
> -Thanks, AB
>
> [ED] http://w3c.github.io/selection-api/
> [Issues] https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues
> [PP] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy/
>
>


-- 
Kenji BAHEUX
Product Manager - Chrome
Google Japan


Re: [selection-api] Moving toward First Public Working Draft

2014-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow

On 9/22/14 3:55 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:

I think the latest documentation is pretty complete except it’s missing one 
major feature: selection.modify [1].

There was a discussion that took place in WHATWG [2] and there was a 
disagreement on the use case and the purpose of this particular API among UA 
implementors.

I can add that note to the specification for completeness before FPWD is 
published for the patent protection purposes.


OK, please do. Shortly, I'll start the CfC for FPWD.

-Thanks, ArtB


[1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9514
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2011Mar/0297.html






Re: [selection-api] Moving toward First Public Working Draft

2014-09-22 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Arthur Barstow  wrote:

> Hi Ryosuke, Ben, Kenji, All,
> 
> I'm looking for feedback about moving the Selection API [ED] to First Public 
> Working Draft (FPWD) ...
> 
> A `rule of thumb` I generally use when considering if a spec is ready for a 
> FPWD is if the feature set is mostly complete although there is no 
> expectation all features are fleshed out in detail (IOW, looking for breadth 
> mostly complete but not depth). The breadth question is important because a 
> FPWD is also used as an "attorney snapshot" vis-à-vis the [PP]. Regarding the 
> spec's open [Issues], there is no expectation a FPWD be bug/issue free (in 
> fact, it would be rare if that was the case).
> 
> What are your thoughts about publishing a FPWD? Do you consider the latest ED 
> to be feature complete; and if not, what major features are missing?

I think the latest documentation is pretty complete except it’s missing one 
major feature: selection.modify [1].

There was a discussion that took place in WHATWG [2] and there was a 
disagreement on the use case and the purpose of this particular API among UA 
implementors.

I can add that note to the specification for completeness before FPWD is 
published for the patent protection purposes.

[1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9514
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2011Mar/0297.html

- R. Niwa