RE: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:47:23 -0400 From: art.bars...@nokia.com To: tyosh...@google.com; feras.mou...@hotmail.com CC: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans On 10/11/13 8:05 AM, ext Takeshi Yoshino wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Feras Moussa feras.mou...@hotmail.com mailto:feras.mou...@hotmail.com wrote: Apologies for the delay, I had broken one of my mail rules and didn't see this initially. Asymeric is correct - there have been a few threads and revisions. A more up-to-date version is the one Asymeric linked - http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html The above version incorporates both promises and streams and is a more refined version of Streams. From other threads on Stream, it became apparent that there were a few pieces of the current Streams API ED that were designed around older paradigms and needed refining to be better aligned with current APIs. I think it does not make sense to have two different specs, and instead have a combined one that we move forward. I can work with Takeshi on getting his version incorporated into the Streams ED, which we can then move forward with. I'm happy to. OK, thanks Feras and Takeshi. Re PubStatus, I added Taekshi as an Editor and update the Plan to reflect the impending integration. I think it would be helpful if Feras' spec was updated as soon as possible to clearly state the intent to integrate Takeshi's spec. -Thanks, Art The spec has been updated with a note clarifying the state. I will work with Takeshi on getting the ED updated accordingly. Thanks, Feras
Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Feras Moussa feras.mou...@hotmail.comwrote: Apologies for the delay, I had broken one of my mail rules and didn't see this initially. Asymeric is correct - there have been a few threads and revisions. A more up-to-date version is the one Asymeric linked - http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html The above version incorporates both promises and streams and is a more refined version of Streams. From other threads on Stream, it became apparent that there were a few pieces of the current Streams API ED that were designed around older paradigms and needed refining to be better aligned with current APIs. I think it does not make sense to have two different specs, and instead have a combined one that we move forward. I can work with Takeshi on getting his version incorporated into the Streams ED, which we can then move forward with. I'm happy to. Thanks, Feras Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:32:20 -0400 From: art.bars...@nokia.com To: vitteayme...@gmail.com; feras.mou...@hotmail.com; tyosh...@google.com CC: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans On 10/10/13 6:26 AM, ext Aymeric Vitte wrote: I think the plan should be more here now: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013OctDec/0049.html There are indeed at least two specs here: [1] Feras' https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm [2] Takeshi's http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html Among the Qs I have here are ... * What is the implementation status of these specs? There's a Blink intent-to-implement for Streams API I sent. I plan to implement it based on [2]. By turning on a flag to turn on experimental features, XHR in Chrome can return a response as a Stream object. It's based on 10. Extension of XMLHttpRequest of [1]. Nothing done yet for the rest. We're preparing for it (such as implementation of Promises). I agree that we should merge [1] and [2] as Feras said.
Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
On 10/11/13 8:05 AM, ext Takeshi Yoshino wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Feras Moussa feras.mou...@hotmail.com mailto:feras.mou...@hotmail.com wrote: Apologies for the delay, I had broken one of my mail rules and didn't see this initially. Asymeric is correct - there have been a few threads and revisions. A more up-to-date version is the one Asymeric linked - http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html The above version incorporates both promises and streams and is a more refined version of Streams. From other threads on Stream, it became apparent that there were a few pieces of the current Streams API ED that were designed around older paradigms and needed refining to be better aligned with current APIs. I think it does not make sense to have two different specs, and instead have a combined one that we move forward. I can work with Takeshi on getting his version incorporated into the Streams ED, which we can then move forward with. I'm happy to. OK, thanks Feras and Takeshi. Re PubStatus, I added Taekshi as an Editor and update the Plan to reflect the impending integration. I think it would be helpful if Feras' spec was updated as soon as possible to clearly state the intent to integrate Takeshi's spec. -Thanks, Art
Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
I think the plan should be more here now: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013OctDec/0049.html Regards Aymeric Le 02/10/2013 18:32, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Hi Feras, If any of the data for the Streams API spec in [PubStatus] is not accurate, please provide corrections. Also, please see the following thread and let us know your plan for this spec http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013JulSep/0599.html. -Thanks, ArtB [PubStatus] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/PubStatus -- Peersm : http://www.peersm.com node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
On 10/10/13 6:26 AM, ext Aymeric Vitte wrote: I think the plan should be more here now: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013OctDec/0049.html There are indeed at least two specs here: [1] Feras' https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm [2] Takeshi's http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html Among the Qs I have here are ... * What is the implementation status of these specs? * Would it make sense or be useful to merge or layer the specs, or should we only work on one of these specs? * Who favors WebApps stopping work on [1] and starting work on [2]? * Would anyone object to WebApps stopped working on [1]? If yes, are you willing to help lead the effort to move Feras' spec forward? * Takeshi - I noticed you are not a member of WebApps. Are you willing to work on [2] within the context of WebApps? -Thanks, AB Regards Aymeric Le 02/10/2013 18:32, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Hi Feras, If any of the data for the Streams API spec in [PubStatus] is not accurate, please provide corrections. Also, please see the following thread and let us know your plan for this spec http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013JulSep/0599.html. -Thanks, ArtB [PubStatus] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/PubStatus
RE: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans
Apologies for the delay, I had broken one of my mail rules and didn't see this initially. Asymeric is correct - there have been a few threads and revisions. A more up-to-date version is the one Asymeric linked - http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html The above version incorporates both promises and streams and is a more refined version of Streams. From other threads on Stream, it became apparent that there were a few pieces of the current Streams API ED that were designed around older paradigms and needed refining to be better aligned with current APIs. I think it does not make sense to have two different specs, and instead have a combined one that we move forward. I can work with Takeshi on getting his version incorporated into the Streams ED, which we can then move forward with. Thanks, Feras Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:32:20 -0400 From: art.bars...@nokia.com To: vitteayme...@gmail.com; feras.mou...@hotmail.com; tyosh...@google.com CC: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [streams-api] Seeking status and plans On 10/10/13 6:26 AM, ext Aymeric Vitte wrote: I think the plan should be more here now: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013OctDec/0049.html There are indeed at least two specs here: [1] Feras' https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm [2] Takeshi's http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/tyoshino/stream/blob/master/streams.html Among the Qs I have here are ... * What is the implementation status of these specs? * Would it make sense or be useful to merge or layer the specs, or should we only work on one of these specs? * Who favors WebApps stopping work on [1] and starting work on [2]? * Would anyone object to WebApps stopped working on [1]? If yes, are you willing to help lead the effort to move Feras' spec forward? * Takeshi - I noticed you are not a member of WebApps. Are you willing to work on [2] within the context of WebApps? -Thanks, AB Regards Aymeric Le 02/10/2013 18:32, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Hi Feras, If any of the data for the Streams API spec in [PubStatus] is not accurate, please provide corrections. Also, please see the following thread and let us know your plan for this spec http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013JulSep/0599.html. -Thanks, ArtB [PubStatus] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/PubStatus
