Re: [XHR] XMLHttpRequest specification lacks security considerations

2010-02-10 Thread Bil Corry
Maciej Stachowiak wrote on 2/9/2010 4:13 AM: HTTPbis should address this threat in the security considerations section, and should strongly consider making it a MUST-level requirement for servers to check that the Host header is a host they serve. If HTTP had that requirement and all servers

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 3, 2010, at 20:54, Drew Wilson wrote: Following up on breaking out createHTMLNotification() and createNotification() vs combining them into one large API - I believe the intent is that a given user agent may not support all types of notifications (for example, a mobile phone

[widgets] LCWDs of XML Signature specs published

2010-02-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Last week the XML Security WG published LCWDs of two specs the Widget Digital Signature CR [Widget-DigSig] references: XML Signature Properties http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-xmldsig-properties-20100204/ XML Signature Syntax and Processing Version 1.1

RE: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 11 February 2010 voice conf

2010-02-10 Thread David Rogers
Apologies in advance for this week and next. Thanks, David. -Original Message- From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Barstow Sent: 10 February 2010 13:30 To: public-webapps Subject: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 11 February 2010

Re: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 11 February 2010 voice conf

2010-02-10 Thread Cyril Concolato
Dear Mr. Barstow, As indicated in the mails about MPEG-U, I would like to request that the WG discusses the MPEG liaison regarding widgets. Could you add it to the agenda ? Best Regards, Cyril Concolato Le 10/02/2010 14:29, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Below is the draft agenda for the 11

Re: XHR HTTP method support, Re: XHR LC comments

2010-02-10 Thread Julian Reschke
Following up to an email from Feb 2009: Julian Reschke wrote: Following up to a mail from May 2008: Julian Reschke wrote: Sunava Dutta wrote: ... At this point, I'm not sure why we're bothering with XHR1 at all. It is *not* what the current implementations do anyway. [Sunava Dutta] I'm

Re: XHR HTTP method support, Re: XHR LC comments

2010-02-10 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:49:18 +0100, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: Remind me: what's the purpose of the W3C working on an XHR spec if even well-documented bugs like this do not get fixed by implementers? That it is clear this is in fact a bug and needs to be fixed. (I believe

Re: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 11 February 2010 voice conf

2010-02-10 Thread Stephen Jolly
Art, My regrets, but due to conflicts I will be unable to attend this VC, or next week's (assuming one is scheduled). S On 10 Feb 2010, at 13:29, Arthur Barstow wrote: Below is the draft agenda for the 11 February Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread John Gregg
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 20:54, Drew Wilson wrote: Following up on breaking out createHTMLNotification() and createNotification() vs combining them into one large API - I believe the intent is that a given user agent may not

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Robert O'Callahan
We ran into this issue when mapping our own browser notifications to platform notification APIs. For ambient notifications, you can't rely on the user being able to click on the notification, because the notification might time out and disappear on its own before the user has had a chance to

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Drew Wilson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 20:54, Drew Wilson wrote: Following up on breaking out createHTMLNotification() and createNotification() vs combining them into one large API - I believe the intent is that a given user agent may not

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: We ran into this issue when mapping our own browser notifications to platform notification APIs. For ambient notifications, you can't rely on the user being able to click on the notification, because the

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: One of the suggestions made previously on this thread was to coalesce createNotification() and createHTMLNotification() into a single API with an optional HTML parameter - this would allow UAs on systems with

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Drew Wilson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: One of the suggestions made previously on this thread was to coalesce createNotification() and createHTMLNotification() into a single API with

Re: [XHR] XMLHttpRequest specification lacks security considerations

2010-02-10 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: A sever can generally determine the domain name of the host it is running on from the operating system, if it wants to run with zero configuration. That is apparently what Apache does:

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: One of the suggestions made previously on this thread was to

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: I think a better way to go would be to support a restricted subset of HTML, and then consider how the UA should extract text for a

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Drew Wilson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: I think a better way to go would be to support a restricted

Re: [XHR] XMLHttpRequest specification lacks security considerations

2010-02-10 Thread Bil Corry
Aryeh Gregor wrote on 2/10/2010 3:21 PM: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Bil Corry b...@corry.biz wrote: Another threat is an attacker crafting a malicious payload in the Host header, hoping that it gets logged then viewed via a web browser. That's just straight XSS. I left it open-ended

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com wrote: I'm sooo totally for that. I want nothing more than to have more engagement and input from you guys. Our URI spec is in last call and so is the access request spec. The specs are really small. Please find a few hours

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 8, 2010, at 4:25 AM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Folks- As you know, we will be up for rechartering on 30 June 2010. However, we have a few new deliverables, and we've been specifically advised that though they are arguably in scope, it would be better transparency if e.g.

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Drew Wilson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Drew Wilson

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:10 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com wrote: I'm sooo totally for that. I want nothing more than to have more engagement and input from you guys. Our URI spec is in last call and so is the

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert O'Callahan

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:10 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com wrote: I'm sooo totally for that. I want nothing more than to have more

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Drew Wilson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: And I think the answer is yes. Any time someone talks about an optional web feature I get nervous. Can you give any examples of successful optional web features that exist today? I'd suggest Javascript and Images, but

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Maciej- Thanks for the feedback. Maciej Stachowiak wrote (on 2/10/10 8:10 PM): Some comments: - I would like to suggest the name Web Messaging for the postMessage / MessageChannel deliverable. Done. - I think the Other Specifications section should be clear on the right process for

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- Scott Wilson wrote (on 2/9/10 10:32 AM): There are a couple of additional areas it would be useful to consider for future work in the Widgets space, specifically: - inter-widget communication (both single-user and multi-user, e.g. collaboration) - social web APIs for widgets (e.g.

Re: Inconsistency in Web SQL Database Spec

2010-02-10 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:39:45 +0100, Eric Westenberger eric.westenber...@googlemail.com wrote: sorry, I am not able to follow this explanation.To which binding are you refering? See the bits about Web IDL. Specifically the getter keyword specified on the SQLResultSetRowList interface. I

Re: Notifications

2010-02-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: And I think the answer is yes. Any time someone talks about an optional web feature I get nervous. Can you give any examples of successful optional

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:40:04 +0100, Doug Schepers schep...@w3.org wrote: Hi, Folks- Scott Wilson wrote (on 2/9/10 10:32 AM): There are a couple of additional areas it would be useful to consider for future work in the Widgets space, specifically: - inter-widget communication (both

Re: Rechartering WebApp WG

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 11 Feb 2010, at 08:37, Arve Bersvendsen wrote: - inter-widget communication (both single-user and multi-user, e.g. collaboration) I find this item to be interesting and worth taking on, but I think we ought to also evaluate it in a wider context than widgets. +1 If this particular use