Re: riks of the new clipboard operations API

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/5/11 10:49 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote: Le 6 sept. 2011 à 00:51, Glenn Maynard a écrit : On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net mailto:p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Slowly, users start to see the disadvantages of a dirty web-page (e.g. flash advertisement

Re: RfC: how to organize the DOM specs [Was: CfC: publish new WD of DOM Core]

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Some members of the group consider the D3E spec as the highest priority of our DOM-related specs and they have put considerable resources into that spec. Doug and

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-06 01:02, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Julian Reschke wrote: I do see that it's a problem when people use outdated specs; but maybe the problem is not the being dated, but how they are published. As far as I can tell, there's not nearly as much confusion on the IETF side

[Bug 11966] Catrope's feedback

2011-09-06 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11966 Anne ann...@opera.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC|

Re: Fwd: Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-09-06 Thread Hallvord R. M. Steen
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:50:15 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: Pretty much everything in this spec can be abused to cause nuisance. Personally, I'm less than thrilled to see an API giving sites more ability to mangle what I copy. With greater powers comes, as they say, greater

Re: RfC: how to organize the DOM specs [Was: CfC: publish new WD of DOM Core]

2011-09-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/5/11 3:34 PM, ext Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: We should make these kinds of decisions *solely* on technical grounds. Well surely making decisions on technical grounds is important. However, it seems a bit simplistic to consider it the only factor. (I seem to recall some previous decisions

RfC: LCWD of Web Storage; deadline September 27

2011-09-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
A new LCWD of Web Storage was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-webstorage-20110901/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by September 27.

RfC: LCWD of Web Workers; deadline September 27

2011-09-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
A new LCWD of Web Workers was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-workers-20110901/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by September 27.

Re: [widgets] CFC to republish Widget URI spec

2011-09-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
[1] http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/webapps/20110906 On 8/24/11 10:09 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi, I would like to republish the Widget URI scheme spec as a Working Draft. http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widget-uris/ Please consider this a 1 Week CFC - if you object, please let the group know

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Frederick.Hirsch
Hi Marcos Are you and Ian suggesting we eliminate the publication of WD versions on the way to Rec and just keep the editors draft in TR space? A major implication relates to IPR licensing obligations, which serve to protect implementers. These obligations are incurred relative to steps in

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote: Hi Marcos Are you and Ian suggesting we eliminate the publication of WD versions on the way to Rec and just keep the editors draft in TR space? Yes A major implication relates to IPR licensing

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Julian Reschke wrote: I do see that it's a problem when people use outdated specs; but maybe the problem is not the being dated, but how they are published. As far as I can tell, there's not nearly as much confusion on the IETF side of things, where Internet Drafts actually come with an

Re: [DOM] Name

2011-09-06 Thread David Flanagan
On 9/4/11 6:39 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:12:45 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The CfC to publish a new WD of DOM Core was blocked by this RfC. I will proceed with a request to publish a new WD of DOM Core in TR/. The name DOM Core will be used for

Re: [DOM] Name

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/6/11 9:18 AM, David Flanagan wrote: On 9/4/11 6:39 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:12:45 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The CfC to publish a new WD of DOM Core was blocked by this RfC. I will proceed with a request to publish a new WD of DOM Core

Re: [DOM] Name

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/5/11 2:38 PM, Adam Barth wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Charles Pritchardch...@jumis.com wrote: On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Adam Barthw...@adambarth.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Charles Pritchardch...@jumis.com wrote: On 9/4/11 6:39 AM, Anne

[DOMCore] Web messaging references

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
There are various specifications that include terminology warnings as part of their reference to DOMCore. Can we reduce the cost of including DOMCore references in basic APIs, by adding some kind of supporting text to the DOMCORE specification's extensibility section? Example:

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/5/11 12:11 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi Julian, On Monday, 5 September 2011 at 20:54, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-05 16:13, Marcos Caceres wrote: ... Most don't, in my experience. Specially those from other consortia. They love cling the dated specs and then pretend they

RE: [DOM3Events] CR

2011-09-06 Thread Jacob Rossi
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:47:45 +0200, Doug Schepers schep...@w3.org wrote: On 9/4/11 9:41 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: I do not think that is appropriate given that unlike all our other specifications it does not use Web IDL DOM3 Events does provide Web IDL definitions for the interfaces

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: Lets get a public version repository on the official w3c website. They pulled off incorporating bugzilla, surely they can pull off incorporating git. It's quite easy. We have them. dev.w3.org is the older CSS repository

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote: Are you and Ian suggesting we eliminate the publication of WD versions on the way to Rec and just keep the editors draft in TR space? Yes (or eliminate the TR/ space entirely and keep the specs elsewhere). A major implication relates

Public repositories, was: Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/6/11 12:30 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Charles Pritchardch...@jumis.com wrote: Lets get a public version repository on the official w3c website. They pulled off incorporating bugzilla, surely they can pull off incorporating git. It's quite easy.

Re: [Clipboard API] Copy to clipboard

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel Cheng
Why do you need to create an element? Just call execCommand('copy') and setData('text/html', 'blah') in your copy handler. Daniel On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 03:57, João Eiras jo...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:47:28 +0200, Hallvord R. M. Steen hallv...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 05

Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-06 Thread Alex Russell
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Dominic Cooney wrote: I think the XBL approach is far superior here -- have authors use existing elements, and use XBL to augment them. For example, if you want the user to select a country from a map,

[Bug 13373] Privacy: Limit SharedWorker connections to same top-level domain

2011-09-06 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 Travis Leithead [MSFT] tra...@microsoft.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

Re: [Clipboard API] Copy to clipboard

2011-09-06 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Maybe execCommand('copy') isn't enabled outside editable region in some UAs? - Ryosuke On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Daniel Cheng dch...@chromium.org wrote: Why do you need to create an element? Just call execCommand('copy') and setData('text/html', 'blah') in your copy handler. Daniel

Re: Fwd: Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-09-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Hallvord R. M. Steen hallv...@opera.comwrote: With greater powers comes, as they say, greater responsibility. If you personally don't like the possibilities for nuisance this API enables, you have multiple options - use a browser that doesn't support these

Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-06 Thread Sean Hogan
On 7/09/11 7:20 AM, Alex Russell wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Dominic Cooney wrote: I think the XBL approach is far superior here -- have authors use existing elements, and use XBL to augment them. For example, if you want the user