Re: [XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-30 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Finally, XHR allows the programmer using XHR to override the MIME type, including the charset parameter, so if the person adding new XHR code can't change the encoding declarations on legacy data, (s)he can override the

Re: [File API] Issue 182 about OperationNowAllowed

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:28:04 +0200, Arun Ranganathan a...@mozilla.com wrote: I've closed Issue 181, which pertains to a name attribute on exception objects that is now redundant, thanks to WebIDL's evolution for exception interfaces. Web IDL changed since then:

Re: [indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:54:50 +0200, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: Microsoft believes that the following text closer reflects the intent on the WebIDL spec: * Throws a DOMException of type VersionError. (vs. Throw a VersionError exception, which doesn’t accurately capture the

Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by October 21. The reference for the Websocket Protocol (WSP) needs an updated author list.

Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org

Re: Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:37:24 +0200, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: Might be good if we stop including the name of authors in the references (because they do tend to change quite a bit over time). The reference document is hyperlinked, so what is the use case for including the author

Re: Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-30 10:37, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ Please send all comments to

Re: Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-30 10:37, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published:

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
FWIW, I am waiting for http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14284 to be fixed in HTML before making changes to XMLHttpRequest. On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:49:17 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: It seems to me that all these cannot be true: * responseText and responseXML use

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: I do not see why text and moz-chunked-text have to be the same. Surely we do not want XML encoding detection to kick in for chunks. Does text and default need to be the same for responseText for text/html and XML types?

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:29:32 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: I do not see why text and moz-chunked-text have to be the same. Surely we do not want XML encoding detection to kick in for chunks. Does text

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:29:32 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: I do not see why text and moz-chunked-text have to be the same.

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:40:09 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: responseType is a newish feature. If it's OK for responseType == chunked-text to use encoding determination rules that differ from responseType == or responseType == document, why should responseType == text have to be

Re: [FileAPI] FileReader.abort() and File[Saver|Writer].abort have different behaviors

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:17:21 +0200, Eric U er...@google.com wrote: I think that works; #2 will be especially important. However, if I read this right, we *don't* have the invariant that a loadstart will always have a loadend. Now that Anne's explained XHR2's model, it seems that an open can

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:29:32 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote:

Re: [FileAPI] FileReader.abort() and File[Saver|Writer].abort have different behaviors

2011-09-30 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 9/30/11 11:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:17:21 +0200, Eric U er...@google.com wrote: I think that works; #2 will be especially important. However, if I read this right, we *don't* have the invariant that a loadstart will always have a loadend. Now that Anne's

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:40:09 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: responseType is a newish feature. If it's OK for responseType == chunked-text to use encoding determination rules that differ from responseType

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, Anne van Kesteren wrote: FWIW, I am waiting for http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14284 to be fixed in HTML before making changes to XMLHttpRequest. So... the prescanning is generally considered optional (the only benefit really is that it avoids reloads in

[Bug 14347] New: Consider createContextualFragment in detached contexts thread

2011-09-30 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14347 Summary: Consider createContextualFragment in detached contexts thread Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All URL:

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:26:48 +0200, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hmm.. I looked through archives but can't find any such decision. It's not how Gecko works, but I haven't tried webkit. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010OctDec/0812.html Kind of weird that Gecko

Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-30 Thread Ms2ger
On 09/29/2011 04:32 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Adam- I'm glad to see some progress on a replacement for Mutation Events. Would you be interested in being the editor for this spec? It's already in our charter, we just need someone to take it up. Olli has offered offlist to be a co-editor, so

Re: [XHR2] responseText for text/html before the encoding has stabilized

2011-09-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:26:48 +0200, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hmm.. I looked through archives but can't find any such decision. It's not how Gecko works, but I haven't tried webkit.

IndexedDB: spec nit - IDBFactory.cmp returns int?

2011-09-30 Thread Joshua Bell
In the WebIDL snippet and description for IDBFactory, the cmp method is defined as returning int which isn't defined in WebIDL (that I can see); presumably this should be long or one of the other signed numeric types? (short, byte, long long, float, double)

Re: IndexedDB: spec nit - IDBFactory.cmp returns int?

2011-09-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Joshua Bell jsb...@chromium.org wrote: In the WebIDL snippet and description for IDBFactory, the cmp method is defined as returning int which isn't defined in WebIDL (that I can see); presumably this should be long or one of the other signed numeric types?

RE: [indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-09-30 Thread Israel Hilerio
On Friday, September 30, 2011 12:23 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:54:50 +0200, Israel Hilerio isra...@microsoft.com wrote: Microsoft believes that the following text closer reflects the intent on the WebIDL spec: * Throws a DOMException of type VersionError. (vs.

RE: [File API] Issue 182 about OperationNotAllowed

2011-09-30 Thread Adrian Bateman
Hi Arun, Thanks for the follow-up - you beat me to it. We've been reviewing this in the context of the other specs and, as Israel outlined for IndexedDB, we're happy with the new WebIDL approach. I think we should go ahead and migrate the File API exceptions to this new model and use ISSUE-182

Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-30 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Ms2ger ms2...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 04:32 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Adam- I'm glad to see some progress on a replacement for Mutation Events. Would you be interested in being the editor for this spec? It's already in our charter, we just need