Re: CfC: publish FPWD of UI Events; deadline May 4

2013-04-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: As discussed during WebApps' April 25 meeting, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a First Public Working Draft of the UI Events spec using the following ED as the basis:

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of UI Events; deadline May 4

2013-04-30 Thread Olli Pettay
+1 On 04/27/2013 05:30 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: As discussed during WebApps' April 25 meeting, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a First Public Working Draft of the UI Events spec using the following ED as the basis: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/d4e/raw-file/tip/source_respec.htm This

[quota-api] Seeking status and plans for Quota Mangement API

2013-04-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Kinuko - during WebApps' f2f meeting last week, someone asked [Mins] about the status and plans of the Quota Management API [ED] (last published in July 2012). We would appreciate it, if you would please provide a short status and plan for that spec, especially any data you have regarding

[selectors-api2] Seeking implementation data re Selectors API Level 2

2013-04-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Lachlan, During WebApps' f2f meeting last week, someone asked [Mins] about the implementation status of Selectors API Level 2. Do you have any implementation data re selectors-api2 you can share with us? -Thanks, AB [Mins] http://www.w3.org/2013/04/25-webapps-minutes.html#item03

Re: Proposal for a DOM L3 Events Telecon

2013-04-30 Thread Кошмарчик
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: I’d like to propose we start a call to begin to work toward resolving the final bugs in the spec and for other business related to getting DOM L3 Events to CR. On the call we can workout what subsequent

ZIP archive API?

2013-04-30 Thread Charles McCathie Nevile
Hi all, at the last TPAC there was discussion of a ZIP archive proposal. This has come and gone in various guises. Are there people currently interested in being able to work with ZIP in a web app? Are there implementors and is there an editor? cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathie Nevile -

Re: ZIP archive API?

2013-04-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: Hi all, at the last TPAC there was discussion of a ZIP archive proposal. This has come and gone in various guises. Are there people currently interested in being able to work with ZIP in a web app? Are there

Re: ZIP archive API?

2013-04-30 Thread Florian Bösch
I am very interested in working with archives. I'm currently using it as a delivery from server (like quake packs), import and export format for WebGL apps. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile

Re: [Shadow DOM] Simplifying level 1 of Shadow DOM

2013-04-30 Thread Erik Arvidsson
The thing about reprojection is that it makes implementers life harder but it makes developers life easy. I'd rather have us do the hard work here. For the record, we have two independent implementations of the Shadow DOM spec so that should debunk some of the myths that this is too hard to

Re: [Shadow DOM] Simplifying level 1 of Shadow DOM

2013-04-30 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
I'm concerned that we're over engineering here. I do understand adding reprojection significantly reduces the need to write author scripts, but I would like to see us implement the truly minimal set of features, have all browsers ship it, and see how authors, particularly that of high profile

Re: [Shadow DOM] Simplifying level 1 of Shadow DOM

2013-04-30 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/30/13 1:52 PM, Erik Arvidsson wrote: For the record, we have two independent implementations of the Shadow DOM spec Do we? Correct ones that are actually shipping in a UA? -Boris

Re: [Shadow DOM] Simplifying level 1 of Shadow DOM

2013-04-30 Thread Daniel Freedman
I'm concerned that if the spec shipped as you described, that it would not be useful enough to developers to bother using it at all. Without useful redistributions, authors can't use composition of web components very well without scripting. At that point, it's not much better than just leaving

[webcomponents]: Comprehensive update of Custom Elements spec

2013-04-30 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Greetings, fellow public-webappsters! Over the past few weeks, I've been digging through implementation feedback and bugs, and polishing the Custom Elements spec. I think it is now in a pretty nice state, so come lookit: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/custom/index.html

Re: Collecting real world use cases (Was: Fixing appcache: a proposal to get us started)

2013-04-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Apr 18, 2013 6:19 PM, Paul Bakaus pbak...@zynga.com wrote: Hi Jonas, Thanks for this ­ I feel this is heading somewhere, finally! I still need to work on submitting my full feedback, but I'd like to mention this: Why did nobody so far in this thread include real world use cases? For a

Re: Fixing appcache: a proposal to get us started

2013-04-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Glenn Jones glennjones...@googlemail.com wrote: I think this outline for improving AppCache is a really good start, but I can see one major problem with it. As you point out AppCache was initially designed for building simple single page web apps. The appcache

Re: Fixing appcache: a proposal to get us started

2013-04-30 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote: On 29/03/2013 21:08 , Jonas Sicking wrote: * Cache both files (poor bandwidth) * We could enable some way of flagging which context different URLs are expected to be used in. That way the UA can send the normal content

Re: Fixing appcache: a proposal to get us started

2013-04-30 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 01/05/2013, at 2:20 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: The current AppCache spec suffers from this too, but only once users go offline. I.e. I can use FALLBACK to take over http://users.example.edu/~alice/ using a resource from from http://users.example.edu/~bob/newalice.html