Re: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Piotr Koszuliński
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ben Peters ben.pet...@microsoft.comwrote: 5. There should be no native toolbars in cE=minimal (and other native UI interfering) like the one Safari opens on iOS if you have non-empty selection. I haven't yet checked exactly what's in the iOS toolbar, but

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Jonas Sicking
I've provided this input through a few channels already, but I don't think the user of [SetClass] here is good (and in fact I've been arguing that SetClass should be removed from WebIDL). First off you likely don't want to key the list of fonts on the FontFace object instance like the spec

Re: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
On 27/05/2014 01:47 , Ben Peters wrote: -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon On 26/05/2014 05:43 , Norbert Lindenberg wrote: Were any speakers of bidirectional languages in the room when this was discussed? I don't know what languages the others speak. That said, my recollection was

Re: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Ben, On 27/05/2014 02:07 , Ben Peters wrote: From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@w3.org] Even without accounting for touch screens, you really want the platform to be the thing that knows what Ctrl-Shift-Left means so you don't have to support it yourself (and get it wrong often). Agree. One

Re: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
On 25/05/2014 20:40 , Piotr Koszuliński wrote: Making some things unselectable might also be useful. IE has unselectable, there's also -moz-user-select and friends. But this is small fries for later I'd reckon. There are also nested non-editable islands. We built very important

Composition events (was: contentEditable=minimal)

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
On 27/05/2014 01:52 , Ben Peters wrote: Composition Events for IMEs, CommandEvents with type insertText for all text input (including after Composition Events for IMEs) I think we should be careful not to mix up composition events and IMEs. They may happen together, but IMEs have their own

Re: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
On 27/05/2014 01:52 , Ben Peters wrote: From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@w3.org] On 23/05/2014 01:23 , Ben Peters wrote: As I said I am unsure that the way in which composition events are described in DOM 3 Events is perfect, but that's only because I haven't used them in anger and they aren't

contentEditable and forms (was: contentEditable=minimal)

2014-05-27 Thread Robin Berjon
On 27/05/2014 09:19 , Piotr Koszuliński wrote: Yes, it should be possible to disable whichever feature you don't need. In some cases you don't need lists (because e.g. you're editing a text that will become a content of a paragraph). And in some cases you don't want bold/italic because your use

[Bug 25423] [Shadow]: event.path should return every nodes in the event path, instead of erasing nodes on descendant trees.

2014-05-27 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25423 Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 25895] New: [imports]: LinkImport definition could use some cleaning up

2014-05-27 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25895 Bug ID: 25895 Summary: [imports]: LinkImport definition could use some cleaning up Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All

[manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On May 27, 2014 at 9:25:26 AM, Ben Francis (bfran...@mozilla.com) wrote: As per our conversation in IRC, something else I'd like to highlight is the fact that in the current version of the spec any web site can host an app manifest for any web app. I'm really sorry, seems I wasn't very

Re: IndexedDB Proposed API Change: cursor.advance BACKWARD when direction is prev

2014-05-27 Thread Joshua Bell
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:24 PM, marc fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a jsfiddle showing how .advance behaves when the range is restricted by .only Create new e.g. 7 items with names like marc and tags like w1 w3 w5 w2 (random selection of tags with some tags appearing across

Re: [manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: Where this could become a problem in the future is if manifests start granting elevated privileges (e.g., access to specific APIs or unlimited storage). However, the security model could then be refined so that, for

RE: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Domenic Denicola
I strongly agree on the SetClass matter. A conventional set of method names is fine, but that should not necessitate a misleading subclass relationship. From: Jonas Sickingmailto:jo...@sicking.cc Sent: ‎2014-‎05-‎27 04:22 To: Daniel

RE: contentEditable=minimal

2014-05-27 Thread Travis Leithead
+Gary and Masayuki --This seems very related to the discussion we are having regarding when to fire beforeinput. beforeinput might be duplicating some of the use-cases that the insertText command event might be supporting. -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@w3.org]

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I've provided this input through a few channels already, but I don't think the user of [SetClass] here is good (and in fact I've been arguing that SetClass should be removed from WebIDL). Yes, there's an issue in the spec

RE: Composition events (was: contentEditable=minimal)

2014-05-27 Thread Travis Leithead
+Gary/Masayuki who can help with deciphering DOM L3 Events :-) -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@w3.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:15 AM To: Ben Peters; Jonas Sicking Cc: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Composition events (was: contentEditable=minimal) On 27/05/2014

Re: [manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On May 27, 2014 at 9:25:26 AM, Ben Francis (bfran...@mozilla.com) wrote: As per our conversation in IRC, something else I'd like to highlight is the fact that in the current version of the spec any web site can host an

Re: CfC: to create a new developer's list for WebApps' specs; deadline May 28

2014-05-27 Thread Boaz Sender
On Wed, May 21, 2014, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote: I've been in several discussions on this topic over the past months, a good example of which is: https://twitter.com/tobie/status/457075677851037696 This is a great point. In reaction to that, I'm running an experiment

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Separately, FontFace.loaded seems to fulfill the same purpose as FontFaceSet.ready(). I.e. both indicate that the object is done loading/parsing/applying its data. It seems more consistent if they had the same name,

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Separately, FontFace.loaded seems to fulfill the same purpose as FontFaceSet.ready(). I.e. both indicate that the object is done

[manifest] URL Scope and priorities, was Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On May 27, 2014 at 9:19:45 AM, Ben Francis (bfran...@mozilla.com) wrote: I think a particular problem with having no defined scope for apps is when you want to hyperlink from one web app to another. A hyperlink with no specified target window will always open in the browsing context

Re: [manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On May 27, 2014 at 2:30:32 PM, Jonas Sicking (jo...@sicking.cc) wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: The only way that gmail would allow my own app store to use its manifest would be for Google to include the HTTP header: Access-Control-Allow-Origin:

Re: [manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On May 27, 2014 at 3:31:15 PM, Ben Francis (bfran...@mozilla.com) wrote: To be clear, this is the case I was talking about. The benefit is that it makes it much easier to build a large app store of tailored app experiences for sites that lack manifests without the involvement of app

[Bug 25895] [imports]: LinkImport definition could use some cleaning up

2014-05-27 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25895 Morrita Hajime morr...@google.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Separately, FontFace.loaded seems to fulfill the same purpose as

Re: [manifest] Fetching restriction, Re: [manifest] Update and call for review

2014-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.comjavascript:; wrote: On May 27, 2014 at 2:30:32 PM, Jonas Sicking (jo...@sicking.cc) wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: The

Re: Last Call for CSS Font Loading Module Level 3

2014-05-27 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com