[Bug 26163] Update references for RFCs 2616 and 2617

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26163 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 26161] Initially the XMLHttpRequest object must be in ...

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26161 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 26162] The name XMLHttpRequest is historical and has n...

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26162 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

RfC: LCWD of 'HTML Media Capture', 'Ambient Light Events' and 'Vibration API'; deadline 24 July

2014-06-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
WebApps has been asked to review three LCWDs published by DAPWG: * HTML Media Capture - http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-html-media-capture-20140619/ * Ambient Light Events - http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-ambient-light-20140619/ * Vibration API -

RfC: OASIS' Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) WebSocket Binding (WSB) Version 1.0; deadline 19 July

2014-06-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is an request for comments for OASIS' Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) WebSocket Binding (WSB) Version 1.0 Community Specification Draft: http://docs.oasis-open.org/amqp-bindmap/amqp-wsb/v1.0/csprd01/amqp-wsb-v1.0-csprd01.html If you have any comments, please submit them by July

Editing TF and list

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi all, this email is to announce the creation of the task force working on editing, jointly between WebApps and HTML, based on the decision made previously[0]. The mailing list's address is public-editing...@w3.org and signing up is at

DIsjoint ranges (was: contentEditable=minimal)

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 06/06/2014 18:52 , Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote: On 05/06/2014 09:02 , Ryosuke Niwa wrote: I agree visual selection of bidirectional text is a problem worth solving but I don't think adding a generic multi-range selection support to the

Re: Composition, IME, etc.

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 06/06/2014 19:13 , Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote: In order to handle them you have two basic options: a) Let the browser handle them for you (possibly calling up some platform functionality). This works as closely to user expectations as a

Re: [editing] selection across editing host boundaries

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 07/06/2014 15:15 , Xavier Morel wrote: I’ve been working with @contenteditable and I’ve hit a case where one browser family (Webkit) seems to behave very differently than the others (tested: Firefox and MSIE). The situation is nested editing hosts: when starting a selection from the inner

Editing with native UI (was: [editing] CommandQuery Object and Event)

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 06/06/2014 18:39 , Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Piotr Koszuliński p.koszulin...@cksource.com wrote: 1. That we need any native UI related to cE at all. We don't. We can display our own toolbars, with our own buttons, with our own icons and implementing our own logic. So

Re: [editing] CommandEvent and contentEditable=minimal Explainer

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 17/06/2014 02:39 , Julie Parent wrote: I certainly understand the concern that it would be impossible to properly catch and cancel all events. But I think that is somewhat the point - it forces browser vendors to get these parts right. All changes to an editable dom must fire an event

Re: [editing] Leading with ContentEditable=Minimal

2014-06-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On 17/06/2014 02:12 , Julie Parent wrote: If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope, I think this leads us back to the question of what would contentEditable='minimal' do exactly? Enable collapsed selections and default handling of cursor movement ... anything else? If this is

Re: [editing] Leading with ContentEditable=Minimal

2014-06-23 Thread Julie Parent
Well stated. I like contentEditable=cursor. On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote: On 17/06/2014 02:12 , Julie Parent wrote: If Intention events are (temporarily) moved out of scope, I think this leads us back to the question of what would

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Joshua Bell
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:45 PM, ben turner bent.mozi...@gmail.com wrote: I think this sounds like a fine idea. -Ben Turner On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hi all, I found an old email with notes about features that we might want to put in v2.

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Joshua Bell
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marc Fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I think the same thought pattern can be applied elsewhere in the API design for v2. Consider the scenario of trying to find whether a given index exists or not (upon upgradeneeded). For now, we have to write noisy code

Re: [editing] Leading with ContentEditable=Minimal

2014-06-23 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Julie Parent jpar...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Olivier F teleclim...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [editing] selection across editing host boundaries

2014-06-23 Thread Johannes Wilm
I filed bugs on this on both Firefox and Chrome in spring 2013. It was briefly fixed in Chrome, but the fix was then retracted and we never heard any more of it. It was also reported in Firefox by someone else in 2011. [1] I also had some contact with Webkit people working in this area who

[Bug 26181] New: Spec should specify the presentation of the array returned by navigator.getGamepads() w.r.t holes

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26181 Bug ID: 26181 Summary: Spec should specify the presentation of the array returned by navigator.getGamepads() w.r.t holes Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified

[Bug 25987] Blob URL parsing / fetching model

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25987 Bug 25987 depends on bug 25914, which changed state. Bug 25914 Summary: No definition of parsing blob's scheme data https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25914 What|Removed |Added

[Bug 25914] No definition of parsing blob's scheme data

2014-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25914 Arun a...@mozilla.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Joshua Bell jsb...@google.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:45 PM, ben turner bent.mozi...@gmail.com wrote: I think this sounds like a fine idea. -Ben Turner On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hi all, I found an

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Marc Fawzi
Joshua, you're on, and I'll be happy to make suggestions once I've thought them through... At least to some extent :) Jonas, There is a small performance difference between them though when applied to indexes. Indexes could have multiple entries with the same key (but different primaryKey),

WebIDL Spec Status

2014-06-23 Thread Glenn Adams
What is the plan, i.e., schedule timeline, for moving WebIDL to REC? We have now a two year old CR that appears to be stuck and a 2nd Edition that I'm not sure has made it to FPWD. Given the high degree of dependency from other specs and implementations on this work, we really need to find a way

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Marc Fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote: Having said that, and speaking naively here, a synchronous .exists() or .contains() would be useful as existence checks shouldn't have to be exclusively asynchronous as that complicates how we'd write: if this exists

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Marc Fawzi
No, I was suggesting .exists() can be synchronous to make it useful I referred to it as .contains() too so sorry if that conflated them for you but it has nothing to do with the .contains Joshua was talking about. In short, an asynchronous .exists() as you proposed does seem redundant But I

Re: WebIDL Spec Status

2014-06-23 Thread Marcos
On June 23, 2014 at 4:07:09 PM, Glenn Adams (gl...@skynav.com) wrote: What is the plan, i.e., schedule timeline, for moving WebIDL to REC? We have now a two year old CR that appears to be stuck and a 2nd Edition that I'm not sure has made it to FPWD. Given the high degree of dependency

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Marc Fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote: No, I was suggesting .exists() can be synchronous to make it useful I referred to it as .contains() too so sorry if that conflated them for you but it has nothing to do with the .contains Joshua was talking about. In

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Joshua Bell
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Marc Fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote: No, I was suggesting .exists() can be synchronous to make it useful I referred to it as .contains() too so sorry if that conflated them for you but it has nothing to do with the .contains Joshua was talking about. In

Re: IDBObjectStore/IDBIndex.exists(key)

2014-06-23 Thread Marc Fawzi
We can do synchronous tests against the schema as it is feasible for implementations to maintain a copy of the current schema for an open connection in memory in the same thread/process as script. (Or at least, no implementer has complained.) Oh cool. So I could have a 3rd party component in

RE: Editing with native UI (was: [editing] CommandQuery Object and Event)

2014-06-23 Thread Ben Peters
From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@w3.org] On 06/06/2014 18:39 , Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Piotr Koszuliński p.koszulin...@cksource.com wrote: 1. That we need any native UI related to cE at all. We don't. We can display our own toolbars, with our own buttons, with

Re: WebIDL Spec Status

2014-06-23 Thread Glenn Adams
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Marcos mar...@marcosc.com wrote: On June 23, 2014 at 4:07:09 PM, Glenn Adams (gl...@skynav.com) wrote: What is the plan, i.e., schedule timeline, for moving WebIDL to REC? We have now a two year old CR that appears to be stuck and a 2nd Edition that I'm