Re: Proposal for changes to manage Shadow DOM content distribution

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> I find it decidedly relevant given I'm pointing out that attribute-specified >> slots Domenic mentioned isn't what you described. Since the only venue in >> which attribute-specifie

Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Hi all, In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat about this afterwards with various people who attended F2F and here's a summary. I'll continue to work with Dimitri & Erik to work out details in the coming mont

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Just to clarity, I obviously haven't had a time to discuss this with my colleagues so I don't know which one (or something else entirely) we (Apple) end up endorsing/opposing at the end. > On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:14 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > Hi all, > > In today's F2F, I've got an action ite

[Shadow DOM] Use Cases for Selective Redistributions

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Hi, Could someone give me a concrete use cases for node redistributions where the second and subsequent insertion points need to redistribute a subset of nodes that have been redistributed to an insertion point in an earlier shadow DOM? Maybe someone at Google working on Polymer would have one

Re: Minutes of Shadow DOM meeting

2015-04-25 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: >We'll post a summary - there is most of one at >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hnCoaJTXkfSSHD5spISJ76nqbDcOVNMamgByiz3QWLA/edit?pli=1#gid=0 > Perhaps a document in some kind of open format would be a better medium than some proprietary application with unc

Re: Minutes of Shadow DOM meeting

2015-04-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 4/25/15 8:45 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/25-webapps-minutes.html See . That contains just a few lines. Looks like the decade-old UTC day change bug is still plaguing the minutes gen

Re: Minutes of Shadow DOM meeting

2015-04-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 4/25/15 8:45 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: We'll post a summary - there is most of one at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hnCoaJTXkfSSHD5spISJ76nqbDcOVNMamgByiz3QWLA/edit?pli=1#gid=0 Perhaps a document in some kind of open format would be a better medium

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable > proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat about this afterwards with > various people who attended F2F and here's a summary. I'll continue to work > with Di

:host pseudo-class

2015-04-25 Thread Anne van Kesteren
I don't understand why :host is a pseudo-class rather than a pseudo-element. My mental model of a pseudo-class is that it allows you to match an element based on a boolean internal slot of that element. :host is not that since e.g. * does not match :host as I understand it. That seems super weird.

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Hayato Ito
Thank you, guys. I really appreciate if you guys could use the W3C bug, 18429, to discuss this kind of specific topic about Shadow DOM so that we can track the progress easily in one place. I'm not fan of the discussion being scattered. :) https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18429 On

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable >> proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat about this afterwards with >> various people who

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Sure, I'll put the summary of discussion there later. - R. Niwa > On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Hayato Ito wrote: > > Thank you, guys. > I really appreciate if you guys could use the W3C bug, 18429, to discuss this > kind of specific topic about Shadow DOM so that we can track the progress >

RE: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Travis Leithead
Nice work folks, and thanks for writing this up so quickly! Anne's Gist captured exactly what I was thinking this would look like. One nit: it would be nice if the callback could be registered from _inside_ the shadowRoot, but I couldn't come up with a satisfactory way to do that without adding

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Hayato Ito
Thanks. I am really glad to see more and more guys are thinking about Shadow DOM. I know distribution/re-distributions is a tough issue. A lot of exciting things are waiting for you. :) On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 10:19 AM Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > Sure, I'll put the summary of discussion there later. >

Re: :host pseudo-class

2015-04-25 Thread Daniel Tan
On 4/26/2015 12:32 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: I don't understand why :host is a pseudo-class rather than a pseudo-element. My mental model of a pseudo-class is that it allows you to match an element based on a boolean internal slot of that element. :host is not that since e.g. * does not match

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Olli Pettay
On 04/25/2015 09:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat about this afterwards with various people who attended F2F and here

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable >> proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat about this afterwards with >> various people who a

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Olli Pettay wrote: > > On 04/25/2015 09:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >>> In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable >>> proposal for imperative API. I had a great chat ab

Re: Minutes of Shadow DOM meeting

2015-04-25 Thread chaals
25.04.2015, 14:45, "Bjoern Hoehrmann" : > * cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: >> We'll post a summary - there is most of one at >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hnCoaJTXkfSSHD5spISJ76nqbDcOVNMamgByiz3QWLA/edit?pli=1#gid=0 > > Perhaps a document in some kind of open format would be a better med

Re: Imperative API for Node Distribution in Shadow DOM (Revisited)

2015-04-25 Thread Olli Pettay
On 04/25/2015 01:58 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: On Apr 25, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Olli Pettay wrote: On 04/25/2015 09:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: In today's F2F, I've got an action item to come up with a concrete workable proposal for imper