Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:41 PM, timeless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/08, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R28. Network State Change Events A conforming specification must specify a means that allows authors to check if the widget resource is connected to Web. A conforming

Re: Improving Communication and Expectations

2008-06-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
(as was the case with XDR), people may start coming up with all sorts of ridiculous conspiracy theories [1] as to why you did that. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://datadriven.com.au/2008/06/18/ie8-xdomainrequest-conspiracy-theory/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au http://standardssuck.org

[Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
To which Timeless replied... -- Forwarded message -- From: timeless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC To: Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you didn't reply to the list) On 6/18/08, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To which Timeless replied... -- Forwarded message -- From: timeless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Widgets] Requirements LC To: Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED

[widgets] Device Specific APIs and Services

2008-06-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
= function(loadedAPI){ try{ gps = loadedAPI.bind(); loc = gps.getLastLoc(); catch(e){ } } apiLoader.onError = function(loader){} apiLoader.load(); -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au http://standardssuck.org

Re: [widgets] icon text

2008-06-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Marcos Caceres wrote: This is a proposal to add alternative text to icon element. As with the alt attribute in HTML, the alternative text could be used as fallback content, or for context where an image icon does

Re: Initial input for discussion of Widget security model

2008-06-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
edit it, but would not want to take a leading editorial role. kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[Widgets] Requirements LC Comment Tracker

2008-06-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
Mike(tm) Smith has set up a Last Call comments tracker for the Widgets 1.0: Requirements document: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-reqs-20080625 All comments will be tracked through there. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Call for Review: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0 Requirements

2008-06-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Sean, On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Sean Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos Caceres wrote: However, do you think we should be referencing version 4? has there been much uptake of v4? Not sure, but I would be more inclined to reference RFC 5280: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5280.txt

Re: [widgets] ETags and Automatic updates

2008-07-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
be done as an HTTP Header, as an attribute in the XML that represents the widget (as in your example), Or as some other element delivered in the package itself. I'm sure it could be done. But how can this be done easily with Apache or IIS? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] ETags and Automatic updates

2008-07-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Julian Reschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos Caceres wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, mike amundsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos: snip I'm sure it could be done. But how can this be done easily with Apache or IIS? /snip Since Apache

Re: Accessibility requirement

2008-07-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-land/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Accessibility requirement

2008-07-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
away from completion. Widgets, we assume/hope, we package HTML5 applications in the future but we are standardizing, for better or for worsts, on HTML4.01. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Widgets and :context

2008-07-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] - Requirements Working Draft 23 June 2008 Review

2008-07-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
point. Fixed. R44. Runtime Security Exceptions A conforming specification must specify runtime exceptions for when the API attempts to perform an action it it not authorized to perform. Correct it it fixed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Accessibility requirement

2008-07-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
agree with a lot of the things in WCAG 1 or 2, but if it's the best we have so be it. It would be helpful if others with more experience in this area could provide some guidance on how to proceed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] OMTP input to W3C Widget Requirements (2 of 2)

2008-08-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Doug, All, below is the plain text edition of the email. It can also be found in the archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0302.html --- Dear Art, Marcos and all, Please find attached the second set of OMTP BONDI input to the W3C Web Applications WG

Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-08-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
readers and similar assistive technologies. -- Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-08-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
technologies such as screen readers with: screen readers and other assistive technologies Yep, much better! fixed. Thanks! -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-08-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
the persistence? Shouldn't the word instantated be omitted? Ok, I see what you mean. I dropped the word instantiated. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-land/#differences -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-08-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
or comments from WebApps members or the TAG are welcomed. [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008May/0121.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/61 [3] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-reqs/#r6.-addressing -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widget Requirements: Updates vs security

2008-08-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
. For instance, in a new version of a widget, I might want to add support for file access and access to another domain, but retain the user's preset preferences. It would suck, as a developer, if I was not allowed to do that. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[Widgets] R21. Resource Declarations. Was RE: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-08-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
-webapps/2008JulSep/0298.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: FW: Widgets i18n feedback

2008-08-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
: Phillips, Addison Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Marcos Caceres; Arthur Barstow; Felix Sasaki; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Widgets i18n feedback Hi, My personal comments on the Widgets specs located at [1] follow. I have copied a few members of the WebApps

[widgets] MWBP WG Comments of Widgets Reqs LC WD, was Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-08-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
further. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-land/Overview.src.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] MWBP WG Comments of Widgets Reqs LC WD, was Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-08-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
on architectural decisions and guidance on best practices for widgets and mobile-based client side web applications. Kind regards, Marcos On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bryan, MWBP WG, On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Sullivan, Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [widgets] OMTP input to W3C Widget Requirements (2 of 2)

2008-09-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
their servers to handle the verification load. Though I can understand that taking some load off servers would be a good thing but it seems to add more complexity to the digsig model... Is that a fair call? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] package updates @notify strawman

2008-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
, comments? As an aside, I also want to rename the automatic updates spec Remote and Local Updates. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://www.openmobilealliance.org/Technical/release_program/download_v10.aspx -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] R21. Resource Declarations. Was RE: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
. The technological infrastructure needed to develop such a thing is beyond the scope of Widgets 1.0 (but that's not to say that it should not be part of any Widgets 2.0 effort). Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] CCPP in widgets, was Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
objection to because that spec is a Note and hence non-normative): RDF puts an unnecessarily heavy burden on anyone on the receiving end of the technology, particularly for something that, as you state, is supposed to be simple. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] MWBP WG Comments of Widgets Reqs LC WD, was Re: Request for Comments on Widgets 1.0 Requirements Last Call WD

2008-09-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
of next week. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0417.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] OMTP input to W3C Widget Requirements (1 of 2)

2008-09-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
Bryanston Street London W1H 7AJ www.omtp.org P Please consider the environment – don't print this mail unless you really need to... -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements - Editor's Draft 15 August 2008

2008-09-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
unless it's strictly required. Oh, and periods should be used consistently :) 'and' before last item: snip All fixed... Thanks again! -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-09-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
satisfaction. To be sure, your comments have substantially improved the quality of this specification and possibly the direction the WG will take with this work. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] feature element strawman

2008-09-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
and hope that we can convince the GeoLocation guys to add a URI to their spec. thoughts, comments, etc Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] i18n span element VS unicode RLM/LRM

2008-09-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
place (or is that wishful thinking?). Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] OMTP input to W3C Widget Requirements (1 of 2)

2008-09-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
of OMTP, I'd like to thank you for your hard work integrating the OMTP input to the requirements spec. We're happy with the changes in [1]. Thanks, David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcos Caceres Sent: 05 September 2008 14:30

[widgets] update death of the etag attr

2008-09-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
(and not by pointing to widget packages on the Web). I will try to have the Update spec ready for FPWD by the end of today. Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] update death of the etag attr

2008-09-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Mark, On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcos, On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've dropped the etag attribute from the update element in the Widget Packaging spec as I deemed it too difficult

Re: Widget Icon behaviour...

2008-09-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
on this text at the moment, so if it's still a bit vague let us know and we will try to clarify it. Also from my point of view, the first icon will be used. So in the example above the PNG may look better than the GIF. (example) Again, please see the links above. -- Marcos Caceres http

Re: [XHR] Some comments on charset in the Content-Type header

2008-09-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
). Most specs get grossly outdated within a few days of publication on the TR page. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-09-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
Google Reader, need a little more (like ARIA). So what I meant was the HTML has to be enhanced in order to meet the accessibility requirements that users have come to expect from today's Web. [1] http://www.gcn.com/blogs/tech/41547.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, timeless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/22 Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok. I see your point. However, I'm not sure what I can do as vendors won't budge on this issue for now. At the moment, ZIP serves the purpose for widgets. But as they become more

Re: typo in Widgets 1.0: Requirements (2nd Last Call),Editor's Draft 22 September 2008

2008-09-26 Thread Marcos Caceres
Tha On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please fix the introduction : more geneTic user agent (eg. a Web browser) should be geneRic Fixed. Thanks! Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] Preferences API

2008-09-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
stable (or hopefully it will be by the time we get to CR). Dumping the preferences API will also avoid problems in the future as HTML5 becomes prevalent in the market. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Preferences API

2008-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:35:42 +0200, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I think we should dump the Widgets preferences API in favor of HTML5 DOM's storage API. Basically, preferences API basically

Re: [widgets] Preferences API

2008-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:28:59 +0200, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I, in principle, agree that not replicating existing storage APIs is a good thing, are we sure that all widget implementations

Re: Some comments on Widgets 1.0: Packaging and Configuration

2008-10-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
, but I thought I would send them while I looked at the spec. No, that's great! thank you! -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
(if we do decide to use it, would it b more appropriate to hijack the :port?). For example, widget://:a34af23bh23/myFile.png Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetsMandelieuAgenda -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Mark, On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos - IIRC, there was little or no support for a widget URI

Re: [widgets] i18n span element VS unicode RLM/LRM

2008-10-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
think I've gone about specifying what you intended correctly. On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Felix Sasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi, i18n-WG. In recent feedback we received from Addison Phillips regarding the Widgets 1.0: Packaging specification, he suggested

Re: [widgets] i18n span element VS unicode RLM/LRM

2008-10-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
native widgets markup from the any defintions. That is just a suggestion, no need to handle this as a formal comments. Regards, Felix. Kind regards, -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Mark, On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Any hierarchical URI scheme would seem to be able to meet those requirements. So why not, for the sake of argument, file:? Yes, file

Re: [widgets] Updates FPWD published

2008-10-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Henri, On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 01:44, Marcos Caceres wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-updates/ As always, comments welcomed. The sentence An update source is the URi referenced by the src attribute

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Mark, On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I wonder whether the scheme really matters very much. What kind of intra-package references do you expect to be able to resolve

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Mark, On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's still a relative reference, so I have no problem with it. What I'm asking is whether an author would ever need to use a full URI

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I will add Any hierarchical URI scheme as the proposed solution into the spec. I will say that, personally, I feel it is irresponsible

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
attribute resolves to something akin to widget://myWidget/images/bg.png). Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-13 Thread Marcos Caceres
been formally standardized anywhere. Does that matter? -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Updates FPWD published

2008-10-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
/Archives/Public/public-appformats/2007Sep/0006.html [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-appformats/2007Sep/0026.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widget Requirements feedback

2008-10-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
for working with us on this. Excellent! thank you and thanks to everyone in the i18n-wg for taking the time to help us out! Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [Widgets] URI Scheme revisited.... again

2008-10-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, In one of my previous emails I said

[widgets] Version string

2008-10-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
the format Major.Minor[.Micro] (X.X[.X]). This affects the widget element's version attribute and parts of the Updates spec in a minor way. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] id attribute rename

2008-10-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
, then don't call it id= [17:24] Hixie if it shoul, do [17:24] tlr-off or for any other matching-by-id, that is [17:24] tlr-off indeed [17:25] tlr-off e.g., xpath We don't use widget id in the manner above. Any suggestions? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Widget locale

2008-10-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
a mention to that effect would be useful. We will be sure to include a note about this. We will let you know once we've added it so you can check that it is ok. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Version string

2008-10-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Mark Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. It's just like an etag, only not an etag 8-) LOL! right :) -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] id attribute rename

2008-10-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
:32 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI All, After discussions on IRC, it has become clear that we need to rename the widget element's id attribute: [17:24] Hixie the real question is not what allowed values it has, but whether it should be used for CSS #id matching or DOM

Re: [widgets] Minutes from 30 October 2008 Voice Conference

2008-11-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
with my responses in the future. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Comments on Widgets 1.0: Requirements LCWD

2008-11-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
). But I feel this is already far enough from the present topic. Agreed. Thank you again for your feedback. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widget testing

2008-11-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
for your help Kai! -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Widget testing

2008-11-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Nov 2008, at 22:46, Marcos Caceres wrote: Subject: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#the-license Having a optional URI or href whatever for the license would be good. Seems to be some inconsistency between src

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-11-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
packages (they inner packages are treated as arbitrary files) and we have no requirements that call for inner package access. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/infrastructure.html#content-type-0 -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
that there is a potential to develop a media-type + fragID-syntax based solution to the package component/widget addressing problem. Completely agreed. But can we please work on the scheme, authority and path bits first? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au [1] http

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
, the metadata becomes a URI rather than a single bit. Either way, you can gain a lot from not a lot, I think. So we are clear, what do you have in mind here? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Stuart, On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 15:28 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Boris Zbarsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos Caceres wrote: That wouldn't be a problem in widgets, as we would say .css is always text/css. My point is that this doesn't seem like a reasonable requirement, necessarily. Do you have any suggestions

[widgets] Trimming attribute values, a bad idea?

2008-12-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
insensitive comparisons. So, for instance, access network= false is ok. Does anyone see any problem with this? Should I revert back to being strict and having UA do comparisons without trimming? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Trimming attribute values, a bad idea?

2008-12-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
HI Simon, On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Simon Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:51:13 +0100, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a question... I've relaxed keyword attributes to be allowed to have leading and trailing whitespace. Any particular reason

[widgets] URI attribute naming

2008-12-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
will named href. This applies to the following elements: * author * license * update ==identifiers== There are two instances where identifiers are used. For the widget element's identifier wid and for the feature element's name attribute. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http

Re: [widgets] Trimming attribute values, a bad idea?

2008-12-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Jere, On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Jere Kapyaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3.12.2008 4.51, ext Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a question... I've relaxed keyword attributes to be allowed to have leading and trailing whitespace. Now, widget user agents are required to trim

[widgets] Window modes

2008-12-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
by the widget element's mode attribute, but not their behavior/rendering, which should be specified somewhere else... but I don't know where. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:46 AM, timeless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .ico - image/vnd.microsoft.icon image/x-icon is the type with which we're most familiar... in practice with gecko, it doesn't matter much

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Art, On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos, On Dec 3, 2008, at 5:03 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: A widget user agent would be expected to support the above types. All other types are optional. All proprietary types, apart from ico, are optional

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
forward to working with everyone on addressing [3], but hopefully people will also be inclined to help us with the problem we have with widgets. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Laurens, 2008/12/5 Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marcos Caceres schreef: Ok, hearing no objections, then I propose we bake in the following file extensions into the spec (we can debate which MIME types to use after we settle on the extensions!): .html .htm .css .gif .jpeg .png

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi Laurens, 2008/12/5 Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marcos Caceres schreef: Ok, hearing no objections, then I propose we bake in the following file extensions into the spec (we can debate

[widgets] Unicode Zip Paths (fully decomposed canonical form?)

2008-12-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
to this. However, for those who know more about encoding, it would be helpful if you could also take a look at the Zip spec. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Marcos [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#zip-relative [2] http://www.pkware.com/documents/casestudies/APPNOTE.TXT -- Marcos

Re: [widgets] Unicode Zip Paths (fully decomposed canonical form?)

2008-12-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
Woops, by fully decomposed canonical form I think I ment Normalization Form D (NFD) as defined in: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr15/#Decomposition On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to put the final touches on the zip section of the widget

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
of unpleasantness. Agreed. [1] http://www.taguri.org/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[widgets] the widget spec needs you! Volunteer to help with references

2008-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
are up to date, update a few and add any references that are missing or incomplete. Hope someone will be kind enough to help me out! Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Typos

2008-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
/expresssion/expression/ fixed. s/fobar.png/foobar.png/ fixed. s/langauge/language/ fixed. Thanks again. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Unicode Zip Paths (fully decomposed canonical form?)

2008-12-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Martin, On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Martin Duerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:31 08/12/06, Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi, I'm trying to put the final touches on the zip section of the widget packaging spec [1] before we go to LC by the 10th and I've run into an i18n problem related

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Simon Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:53:22 +0100, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moi? a personal political agenda to rid the word of application/xhtml

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
2008/12/10 Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marcos Caceres schreef: Seems that there is still too much incompatibility to suggest application/xml support across Widget user agents. I think we should just stick with text/html. If authors want to use application/xml, then they can use content

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Adam Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Marcos Caceres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If authors want to use application/xml, then they can use content src=somefile type=application/xml / and hope for the best :) I haven't been

Re: [widgets] Content-type sniffing and file extension to MIME mapping

2008-12-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Laurens, 2008/12/10 Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marcos Caceres schreef: I'm not sure if any widget engines support application/xhtml+xml. I do not know your definition of 'widget engine', but Opera, Safari, Firefox all support application/xhtml+xml (and Prince XML too, but I don't

Re: [widgets] Packaging Configuration 1.0 pre-CfC comments

2008-12-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
). Will do. Kind regards, Marcos [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008OctDec/0436.html -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Packaging Configuration 1.0 pre-CfC comments

2008-12-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
. I think we should push for the i18n naming as, even if it sounds a bit geeky, it is becoming a standard in the javascript frameworks, and using something else will introduce confusion. Can you please point me which frameworks are using i18n as a folder to contain localized content? -- Marcos

Re: Using W3C widgets in a web container: two implementations contrasted

2009-01-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi, Scott! On 1/14/09 7:55 PM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: All, Two EU-funded projects have implemented the draft W3C Widgets specifications, both the packaging and API parts. This is fantastic to hear. What is notable from these projects have been the

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