Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
On 02/24/2012 01:38 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? Sounds good to me. Whatever shadow dom spec will be implemented, mutation events shouldn't fire there. Mutation observers should work. -Olli There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
Sounds good. Filed a bug here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16096 :DG On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
Just to be clear on this: what is the status of mutation observers? If there any chance shadow dom beats mutation observers to standardization? I don't think so, but just checking... If that turned out to be the case it could be crippling shadow dom until such a time.. Brian On Feb 23, 2012 6:46 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: Sounds good. Filed a bug here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16096 :DG On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
On 02/24/2012 02:10 AM, Brian Kardell wrote: Just to be clear on this: what is the status of mutation observers? They are in DOM 4. The API may still change a bit, but there is already one implementation, and another one close to ready. If there any chance shadow dom beats mutation observers to standardization? AFAIK, shadow DOM is quite far from being stable. I don't think so, but just checking... If that turned out to be the case it could be crippling shadow dom until such a time.. Brian On Feb 23, 2012 6:46 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org mailto:dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: Sounds good. Filed a bug here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16096 :DG On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org mailto:rn...@webkit.org wrote: Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear on this: what is the status of mutation observers? If there any chance shadow dom beats mutation observers to standardization? I don't think so, but just checking... If that turned out to be the case it could be crippling shadow dom until such a time.. I second Olli's opinion. Also, I don't think we're wiling to ship shadow DOM with mutation events enabled regardless. At least, I'll do everything I can to prevent that from happening. - Ryosuke
Re: Disallowing mutation events in shadow DOM
Yeah that was pretty much my feeling but always worth checking. On Feb 23, 2012 7:13 PM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 02/24/2012 02:10 AM, Brian Kardell wrote: Just to be clear on this: what is the status of mutation observers? They are in DOM 4. The API may still change a bit, but there is already one implementation, and another one close to ready. If there any chance shadow dom beats mutation observers to standardization? AFAIK, shadow DOM is quite far from being stable. I don't think so, but just checking... If that turned out to be the case it could be crippling shadow dom until such a time.. Brian On Feb 23, 2012 6:46 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org mailto:dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: Sounds good. Filed a bug here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16096 :DG On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org mailto:rn...@webkit.org wrote: Can we disallow mutation events inside shadow DOM? There is no legacy content that depends on mutation events API inside shadow DOM, and we have a nice spec implementation of new mutation observer API already. FYI, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79278 Best, Ryosuke Niwa Software Engineer Google Inc.
