Re: [DOM-Level-3-Events] Synthetic mouse events triggering default action

2014-10-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Bogdan Brinza bbri...@microsoft.com wrote:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#trusted-events

That text is utterly broken as we've discussed several times now.
Events do not cause action. Actions cause events (that can then
prevent further action). There is one issue here with some
implementations around a limited set of events, discussed to great
length in this bug:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12230


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RE: [DOM-Level-3-Events] Synthetic mouse events triggering default action

2014-10-15 Thread Travis Leithead
-Original Message-
From: annevankeste...@gmail.com [mailto:annevankeste...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne van Kesteren
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Bogdan Brinza bbri...@microsoft.com wrote:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#trusted-events

That text is utterly broken as we've discussed several times now.

Yeah, I've got a bug to fix that. Will probably refactor to match basically 
what Sicking wrote in 12230.

Events do not cause action. Actions cause events (that can then prevent 
further action). There is one issue here with some implementations around a 
limited set of events, discussed to great length in this bug:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12230

It looks like that bug is trending in the right direction. We have additional 
data to drop into that bug now to help Rick and others identify additional 
behaviors and sites that depend on them.


RE: [DOM-Level-3-Events] Synthetic mouse events triggering default action

2014-10-15 Thread Bogdan Brinza
 -Original Message-
 From: Travis Leithead
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:53 AM
 To: Anne van Kesteren; Bogdan Brinza
 Cc: public-webapps@w3.org
 Subject: RE: [DOM-Level-3-Events] Synthetic mouse events triggering default
 action
 
 -Original Message-
 From: annevankeste...@gmail.com [mailto:annevankeste...@gmail.com]
 On Behalf Of Anne van Kesteren
  On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Bogdan Brinza bbri...@microsoft.com
 wrote:
  http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#trusted-events
 
 That text is utterly broken as we've discussed several times now.
 
 Yeah, I've got a bug to fix that. Will probably refactor to match basically 
 what
 Sicking wrote in 12230.
 
 Events do not cause action. Actions cause events (that can then prevent
 further action). There is one issue here with some implementations around a
 limited set of events, discussed to great length in this bug:
 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12230
 
 It looks like that bug is trending in the right direction. We have additional 
 data
 to drop into that bug now to help Rick and others identify additional
 behaviors and sites that depend on them.

Thanks for clarifications. Based on discussion in the bug (thanks Travis for 
adding further details!) I've filed crbug.com/423975 for this specific issue.