RE: RfC: Service Workers and "Portable Web Publications for the Open Web Platform"

[Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken]

Hi Jake,

Thanks for the offer.  The DPUB IG meets on Mondays at 11:00 EDT/15:00 UTC. We 
would be very happy to have you at our 19 October meeting [1] to discuss 
Service Workers in the context of the Portable Web Publications for the Open 
Web Platform [2].

Markus and I will copy you when we send the agenda.

I will speak with some DPUB-ers who especially interested in Service Workers 
about their availability to attend the Web Apps meeting on Monday and I’ll be 
in touch shortly. Thank you for the offer.

[1] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DPUB+IG+meeting=20151019T11=43
[2] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp/

Best,
Tzviya

Tzviya Siegman
Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884
tsieg...@wiley.com<mailto:tsieg...@wiley.com>

From: Jake Archibald [mailto:jakearchib...@google.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:37 PM
To: public-digipub...@w3.org; public-webapps; Alex Russell; Jungkee Song
Cc: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
Subject: Re: RfC: Service Workers and "Portable Web Publications for the Open 
Web Platform"

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 at 13:00 Arthur Barstow 
<art.bars...@gmail.com<mailto:art.bars...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The IG welcomes discussion and feedback during their October 19
conference call (if interested, please contact Tzviya) and/or during
TPAC.

I'm happy to take part in this from a service worker point of view, if 
timezones add up. What time is it?

Although WebApps meets on Monday and Tuesday and the IG meets on
Thursday and Friday, if there is interest in a joint meeting, my
understanding is that some set of IG members can meet during WebApps'
meeting (see agenda at [3] for open slots).

I'm happy to attend either of IG meets, and I intend to be at the the WebApps 
meeting on Monday.

Happy to meet informally too!

Alex, Jake, Jungkee - perhaps you could meet with some of the IG members
during the October 27 Service Worker meeting. WDYT?

I think we're already over subscribed on the 27th, would meeting on the dates 
around that be enough? Happy to make time on evenings if need be.

Re: RfC: Service Workers and "Portable Web Publications for the Open Web Platform"

[Ivan Herman]

Jake,

just to note that Tzviya, who organizes the meetings around TPAC, is on 
vacations until Wednesday morning. We will synchronize then; I hope it is all 
right.

And thanks in advance for your help!

Ivan

---
Ivan Herman
Tel:+31 641044153
http://www.ivan-herman.net

(Written on mobile, sorry for brevity and misspellings...)



> On 5 Oct 2015, at 18:37, Jake Archibald  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 at 13:00 Arthur Barstow  wrote:
>> The IG welcomes discussion and feedback during their October 19
>> conference call (if interested, please contact Tzviya) and/or during
>> TPAC.
> 
> I'm happy to take part in this from a service worker point of view, if 
> timezones add up. What time is it?
>  
>> Although WebApps meets on Monday and Tuesday and the IG meets on
>> Thursday and Friday, if there is interest in a joint meeting, my
>> understanding is that some set of IG members can meet during WebApps'
>> meeting (see agenda at [3] for open slots).
> 
> I'm happy to attend either of IG meets, and I intend to be at the the WebApps 
> meeting on Monday.
> 
> Happy to meet informally too!
>  
>> Alex, Jake, Jungkee - perhaps you could meet with some of the IG members
>> during the October 27 Service Worker meeting. WDYT?
> 
> I think we're already over subscribed on the 27th, would meeting on the dates 
> around that be enough? Happy to make time on evenings if need be.

Re: RfC: Service Workers and "Portable Web Publications for the Open Web Platform"

[Jake Archibald]

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 at 13:00 Arthur Barstow  wrote:

> The IG welcomes discussion and feedback during their October 19
> conference call (if interested, please contact Tzviya) and/or during
> TPAC.


I'm happy to take part in this from a service worker point of view, if
timezones add up. What time is it?


> Although WebApps meets on Monday and Tuesday and the IG meets on
> Thursday and Friday, if there is interest in a joint meeting, my
> understanding is that some set of IG members can meet during WebApps'
> meeting (see agenda at [3] for open slots).
>

I'm happy to attend either of IG meets, and I intend to be at the the
WebApps meeting on Monday.

Happy to meet informally too!


> Alex, Jake, Jungkee - perhaps you could meet with some of the IG members
> during the October 27 Service Worker meeting. WDYT?


I think we're already over subscribed on the 27th, would meeting on the
dates around that be enough? Happy to make time on evenings if need be.

RE: RfC: Service Workers

[Phillips, Addison]

Hello Art,

Could you better define what "soon" means? More specifically, do you have a 
deadline for comments? I don't see any dates in the thread below.

Thanks,

Addison Phillips
Principal SDE, I18N Architect (Amazon)
Chair (W3C I18N WG)

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.

> -Original Message-
> From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:27 AM
> To: public-webapps
> Subject: Re: RfC: Service Workers
> 
> Please use the Version 1 branch for this review:
> <https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker_1/>
> 
> On 9/21/15 7:27 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
> > [ Bcc: TAG (www-tag), WebAppSec WG (public-webapsec), Mobile IG
> > (public-web-mobile), W3C Chairs (chairs),  Review Announce list
> > (public-review-announce), Geolocation WG (public-geolocation) ]
> >
> > The Editors and active contributors of Service Workers intend to
> > publish a Candidate Recommendation soon (details below). Consequently,
> > this is a Request for Comments by the WebApps group to seek wide
> > review of the latest version of the spec:
> >
> > <https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/>
> >
> > The open issues for Version 1, and the spec's version history are [1]
> > and [2], respectively.
> >
> > If you have any comments, we prefer you submit them as Github issues
> > [3]; otherwise, please send your comments to the public-webapps list
> > [4] using a Subject: prefix of "[serviceworkers]".
> >
> > -Thanks, AB
> >
> > [1]
> >
> <https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3A
> > issue+milestone%3A%22Version+1%22>
> > [2] <https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/commits/master>
> > [3] <https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/>
> > [4] <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/>
> >
> >
> > On 9/18/15 2:22 AM, Jungkee Song wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We editors are happy to announce that we make a new branch for
> >> Service Workers 1 today [1].
> >>
> >> Thanks to all the contributions, Service Workers 1 now covers the
> >> fundamental model and the associated APIs to support offline-first
> >> and background processing requirements. The features in this version
> >> include:
> >>   - Register/Update/Unregister of a service worker registration
> >>   - Handle fetch events
> >>   - Fetch and Cache resources
> >>   - Manage service worker clients
> >>   - Communicate between a client and a service worker
> >>   - Define interfaces and algorithms for extensions (Push,
> >> Notification,
> >> etc.)
> >> ([2] is the remaining issues for this version in the github issue
> >> tracker.)
> >>
> >> On top of the above work, the contributors are now ready to continue
> >> with the discussions about new features including foreign fetch [3],
> >> fetch event's request's client, header-based installation,
> >> kill-switch, and so forth. These efforts will be put in Service
> >> Workers Nightly [4] which is just a new name for the original ED
> >> branch.
> >>
> >> We are planning to publish a CR based on Service Workers 1 soon
> >> during which we would like to focus on stabilizing the features (bug
> >> fix) and resolving compatibility issues among multiple
> >> implementations.
> >>
> >> For editors,
> >> Jungkee
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker_1/
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3A
> >> issue+m
> >>
> >> ilestone%3A%22Version+1%22
> >> [3] https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/684
> >> [4] https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jungkee Song
> >> Samsung Electronics
> >
> 

Re: RfC: Service Workers

[Arthur Barstow]

On 9/23/15 1:46 PM, Phillips, Addison wrote:

Could you better define what "soon" means? More specifically, do you have a 
deadline for comments? I don't see any dates in the thread below.


I think four weeks is the `normal` expectation for `wide reviews`. 
However, the Editors and some active participants are having a related 
meeting during the TPAC 2015 meeting week so I think you should consider 
October 25 as the target comment date. If that date won't work for you, 
please let me know.


-Thanks, AB

Re: RfC: Service Workers

[Arthur Barstow]

Please use the Version 1 branch for this review: 



On 9/21/15 7:27 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
[ Bcc: TAG (www-tag), WebAppSec WG (public-webapsec), Mobile IG 
(public-web-mobile), W3C Chairs (chairs),  Review Announce list 
(public-review-announce), Geolocation WG (public-geolocation) ]


The Editors and active contributors of Service Workers intend to 
publish a Candidate Recommendation soon (details below). Consequently, 
this is a Request for Comments by the WebApps group to seek wide 
review of the latest version of the spec:




The open issues for Version 1, and the spec's version history are [1] 
and [2], respectively.


If you have any comments, we prefer you submit them as Github issues 
[3]; otherwise, please send your comments to the public-webapps list 
[4] using a Subject: prefix of "[serviceworkers]".


-Thanks, AB

[1] 


[2] 
[3] 
[4] 


On 9/18/15 2:22 AM, Jungkee Song wrote:

Hi all,

We editors are happy to announce that we make a new branch for Service
Workers 1 today [1].

Thanks to all the contributions, Service Workers 1 now covers the
fundamental model and the associated APIs to support offline-first and
background processing requirements. The features in this version 
include:

  - Register/Update/Unregister of a service worker registration
  - Handle fetch events
  - Fetch and Cache resources
  - Manage service worker clients
  - Communicate between a client and a service worker
  - Define interfaces and algorithms for extensions (Push, Notification,
etc.)
([2] is the remaining issues for this version in the github issue 
tracker.)


On top of the above work, the contributors are now ready to continue 
with

the discussions about new features including foreign fetch [3], fetch
event's request's client, header-based installation, kill-switch, and so
forth. These efforts will be put in Service Workers Nightly [4] which is
just a new name for the original ED branch.

We are planning to publish a CR based on Service Workers 1 soon 
during which
we would like to focus on stabilizing the features (bug fix) and 
resolving

compatibility issues among multiple implementations.

For editors,
Jungkee


[1] https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker_1/
[2]
https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+m 


ilestone%3A%22Version+1%22
[3] https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/684
[4] https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/


--
Jungkee Song
Samsung Electronics