Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Peter Miškovič via Public]

Disig votes „YES“.
Regards
Peter


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Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 10:18 AM
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Kirk Hall of Entrust:

-- MOTION BEGINS --

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS --

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


7 Dec


14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days)


14 Dec


21 Dec


Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Mads Egil Henriksveen via Public]

Buypass votes YES.

Regards
Mads

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham 
via Public
Sent: tirsdag 12. desember 2017 19:51
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:

-- MOTION BEGINS --

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS --

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


7 Dec


14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days)


14 Dec


21 Dec


Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Frank Corday via Public]

Trustwave votes YES to Ballot 216

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham 
via Public
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 12:51 PM
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:

-- MOTION BEGINS --

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS --

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


7 Dec


14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days)


14 Dec


21 Dec


Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: 
https://cabforum.org/members/
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[陳立群 via Public]

Chunghwa Telecom Co., Ltd. votes "Yes" to ballot 216.

 

 

   Li-Chun Chen

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Dimitris 
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:03 PM
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Subject: [外部郵件] Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

 


HARICA votes "yes" to ballot 216.

Dimitris.

On 12/12/2017 8:51 μμ, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google: 

-- MOTION BEGINS -- 

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS -- 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 


Start time (22:00 UTC) 

End time (22:00 UTC) 


Discussion (7 to 14 days) 

7 Dec

14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days) 

14 Dec

21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 

In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 




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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

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From: Gervase Markham via Public
Date: 2017-12-13 02:51
To: CABFPub
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process
[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process
Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.
The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google: 
-- MOTION BEGINS -- 
This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.
In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:
"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."
with:
"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."
Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:
"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."
with:
"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."
In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:
"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"
with:
"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"
Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:
"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"
with:
"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"
-- MOTION ENDS -- 
The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 

Start time (22:00 UTC) 
End time (22:00 UTC) 
Discussion (7 to 14 days) 
7 Dec
14 Dec
Vote for approval (7 days) 
14 Dec
21 Dec
Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Christopher Kemmerer via Public]

SSL.com votes YES.

csk


On 12/12/2017 12:51 PM, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:

/[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]/*

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process
*

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process 
begins. This ballot updates that to instead have the period of 
discussion be more flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is 
ongoing and thereby voting on a sub-optimal ballot.


The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla 
and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:


*-- MOTION BEGINS --*

    This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no 
more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the 
ballot will designate the length of the discussion period, and each 
ballot shall clearly state the start and end dates and times 
(including time zone) for both the discussion period and the voting 
period."


with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven 
calendar days before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the 
ballot (marked with a distinguishing version number) may be posted by 
the proposer in the same manner as the original. Once no new version 
of the ballot has been posted for seven calendar days, the proposer 
may end the discussion period and start the voting period by reposting 
the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that voting is 
to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including time 
zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 
calendar days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the 
ballot and the voting period has not been started."


Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of 
at least seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast 
on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such 
discussion period clearly specified in the ballot."


with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of 
at least seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, 
with the start date of such discussion period clearly specified in the 
ballot. The discussion period shall end and the voting period shall 
commence also according to the procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."


In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion 
period, Members shall have"


with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting 
period, Members shall have"


*-- MOTION ENDS --*

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:




Start time (22:00 UTC)



End time (22:00 UTC)

Discussion (7 to 14 days)



7 Dec



14 Dec

Vote for approval (7 days)



14 Dec



21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the 
Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' 
in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the 
response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the 
response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote 
received from any representative of a voting member before the close 
of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here: 
https://cabforum.org/members/


In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes 
cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes 
cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is 
shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the 
required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the ballot 
to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.



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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public]

HARICA votes "yes" to ballot 216.

Dimitris.

On 12/12/2017 8:51 μμ, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:

/[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]/*

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process
*

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process 
begins. This ballot updates that to instead have the period of 
discussion be more flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is 
ongoing and thereby voting on a sub-optimal ballot.


The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla 
and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:


*-- MOTION BEGINS --*

    This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no 
more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the 
ballot will designate the length of the discussion period, and each 
ballot shall clearly state the start and end dates and times 
(including time zone) for both the discussion period and the voting 
period."


with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven 
calendar days before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the 
ballot (marked with a distinguishing version number) may be posted by 
the proposer in the same manner as the original. Once no new version 
of the ballot has been posted for seven calendar days, the proposer 
may end the discussion period and start the voting period by reposting 
the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that voting is 
to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including time 
zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 
calendar days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the 
ballot and the voting period has not been started."


Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of 
at least seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast 
on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such 
discussion period clearly specified in the ballot."


with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of 
at least seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, 
with the start date of such discussion period clearly specified in the 
ballot. The discussion period shall end and the voting period shall 
commence also according to the procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."


In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion 
period, Members shall have"


with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting 
period, Members shall have"


*-- MOTION ENDS --*

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:




Start time (22:00 UTC)



End time (22:00 UTC)

Discussion (7 to 14 days)



7 Dec



14 Dec

Vote for approval (7 days)



14 Dec



21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the 
Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' 
in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the 
response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the 
response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote 
received from any representative of a voting member before the close 
of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here: 
https://cabforum.org/members/


In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes 
cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes 
cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is 
shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the 
required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the ballot 
to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.



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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[N. Atilla Biler via Public]

TURKTRUST votes “YES” on Ballot 216.

 

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via 
Public
Sent: 15 Aralık 2017 Cuma 19:50
To: Ryan Sleevi <sle...@google.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List 
<public@cabforum.org>; Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

 

DigiCert votes “Yes” on Ballot 216

 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Gervase Markham via Public 
<public@cabforum.org <mailto:public@cabforum.org> > wrote:

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google: 

-- MOTION BEGINS -- 

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS -- 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 


Start time (22:00 UTC) 

End time (22:00 UTC) 


Discussion (7 to 14 days) 

7 Dec

14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days) 

14 Dec

21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 

In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 


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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Gervase Markham via Public]

On 12/12/17 12:51, Gervase Markham via Public wrote:
> Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Mozilla votes YES.

Gerv
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Phillip via Public]

Comodo Security Solutions votes Yes to Ballot 216

 

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham 
via Public
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:51 PM
To: CABFPub  >
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

 

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google: 

-- MOTION BEGINS -- 

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS -- 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 


Start time (22:00 UTC) 

End time (22:00 UTC) 


Discussion (7 to 14 days) 

7 Dec

14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days) 

14 Dec

21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 

In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 

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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Doug Beattie via Public]

GlobalSign votes yes on Ballot 216.

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham 
via Public
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:51 PM
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:

-- MOTION BEGINS --

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS --

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


7 Dec


14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days)


14 Dec


21 Dec


Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Ben Wilson via Public]

DigiCert votes “Yes” on Ballot 216

 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Gervase Markham via Public 
 > wrote:

[Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google: 

-- MOTION BEGINS -- 

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS -- 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 


Start time (22:00 UTC) 

End time (22:00 UTC) 


Discussion (7 to 14 days) 

7 Dec

14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days) 

14 Dec

21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 

In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 


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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Neil Dunbar via Public]

TrustCor votes YES on Ballot 216.

Regards,

Neil

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:51, Gervase Markham via Public  
> wrote:
> 
> [Updated endorsers, 2nd attempt. Timeline unchanged.]
> 
> Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process
> Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
> discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
> This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
> flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
> on a sub-optimal ballot.

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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

[Tim Hollebeek via Public]

I think it’s hilarious, after the recent discussion of minor ballot edits, that 
Gerv misspelled Ryan’s name 

 

Restart the discussion period!!!

 

-Tim

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham 
via Public
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:41 AM
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

 

[Updated endorsers. Timeline unchanged.]

Ballot 216: Update Discussion Period Process

Purpose of Ballot: The current voting procedures specify a "period of 
discussion", the duration of which is fixed before the ballot process begins. 
This ballot updates that to instead have the period of discussion be more 
flexible, to avoid it expiring while discussion is ongoing and thereby voting 
on a sub-optimal ballot.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ryan Sleeve of Google: 

-- MOTION BEGINS -- 

This ballot modifies the CAB Forum Bylaws.

In Section 2.3(c), replace the text:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven but no more 
than 14 calendar days before votes are cast. The proposer of the ballot will 
designate the length of the discussion period, and each ballot shall clearly 
state the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for both the 
discussion period and the voting period."

with:

"The discussion period then shall take place for at least seven calendar days 
before votes are cast. At any time, a new version of the ballot (marked with a 
distinguishing version number) may be posted by the proposer in the same manner 
as the original. Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven 
calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting 
period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that 
voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including 
time zone) for the voting period. The ballot automatically fails if 21 calendar 
days elapse since the proposer last posted a version of the ballot and the 
voting period has not been started."

Similarly, in Section 2.4(b), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven but no more than 14 calendar days before votes are cast on a Draft 
Guideline Ballot, with the start and end dates of such discussion period 
clearly specified in the ballot."

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(c), there will be a discussion period of at least 
seven days before votes are cast on a Draft Guideline Ballot, with the start 
date of such discussion period clearly specified in the ballot. The discussion 
period shall end and the voting period shall commence also according to the 
procedure specified in Section 2.3(c)."

In Section 2.3(d) of the CAB Forum Bylaws, replace the text:

"Upon completion of the discussion period, Members shall have"

with:

"Upon commencement of the voting period, Members shall have"

Similarly, in Section 2.4(c), replace the text:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon completion of such discussion period, 
Members shall have"

with:

"As described in Section 2.3(d), upon commencement of the voting period, 
Members shall have"

-- MOTION ENDS -- 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows: 


Start time (22:00 UTC) 

End time (22:00 UTC) 


Discussion (7 to 14 days) 

7 Dec

14 Dec


Vote for approval (7 days) 

14 Dec

21 Dec

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/ 

In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining. 



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