Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 31/12/09 18:55 did gyre and gimble: It has always specifically hidden the UI element for moving the event streams but I will happily add it back in and write the appropriate stream restore rule if you don't have some fundamental objection to it?

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.12.09 00:30, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: A follow-up on this, how do I move event sounds to a different sink? For other streams I simply use pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem that there's any selector for the System Sounds item. It just selects the 'normal'

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.12.09 08:44, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: A follow-up on this, how do I move event sounds to a different sink? For other streams I simply use pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem that there's any selector for the System Sounds item. It just selects the 'normal' (laptop

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:49 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 29.12.09 08:44, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: A follow-up on this, how do I move event sounds to a different sink? For other streams I simply use pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem that there's any

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:54 did gyre and gimble: Yup and the general decision that this approach is a good thing and something that should be exposed to users. I know Lennart doesn't like the idea of this being something users have direct control over, but it's

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 05.01.10 10:06, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: BTW, if you touch this code anyway it might be an idea to create a new tab which lists more role-specific sliders/dropdowns than just event. I.e. a music slider, a telephony sleider and so on. Actually I'm a bit

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 14:56 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:49 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 29.12.09 08:44, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: A follow-up on this, how do I move event sounds to a different sink? For other streams I

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 05/01/10 15:03 did gyre and gimble: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:54 did gyre and gimble: Yup and the general decision that this approach is a good thing and something that should be exposed to users. I know Lennart doesn't like the

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 15:05 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 05.01.10 10:06, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: BTW, if you touch this code anyway it might be an idea to create a new tab which lists more role-specific sliders/dropdowns than just event. I.e. a

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 05.01.10 14:56, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:49 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 29.12.09 08:44, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: A follow-up on this, how do I move event sounds to a different sink? For other

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 15:19 did gyre and gimble: Well event sounds are now hidden in pavucontrol so moving is tricky... cmd line tools are hard to use for this when time is of the essence! Hmm, I though it is actually visible if you use that dropdown on the

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 05.01.10 15:12, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 05/01/10 15:03 did gyre and gimble: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 14:54 did gyre and gimble: Yup and the general decision that this approach is a good thing and

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 05.01.10 15:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: The problem is that when the even sounds specifically (does not apply to other roles) are shown, that it breaks changing the volumes due to focus stealing in pavucontrol. If we can solve the focus problem they can be shown

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 05/01/10 16:35 did gyre and gimble: We get that value from an XSETTING that gnome-settings-daemon initializes from gconf. Thanks, I'll take a look. BTW, that means that if you run KDE (which afaik does not provide that XSETTING) you wont get event

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-03 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Jason Taylor at 03/01/10 00:31 did gyre and gimble: Seriously need this for my usb headset.. it drives me insane trying to get the sounds to the correct output. One thing though I'm not sure it's possible but there needs to be some thing similar for input as well, at the

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Jason Taylor at 01/01/10 01:31 did gyre and gimble: 2010/1/1 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: Yet another argument for role-based, priority list of preferred devices (e.g. how I've made module-device-manager work with the KDE UI - FWIW, the setup you want is /probably/

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2010-01-02 Thread Jason Taylor
2010/1/3 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie: 'Twas brillig, and Jason Taylor at 01/01/10 01:31 did gyre and gimble: 2010/1/1 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: Yet another argument for role-based, priority list of preferred devices (e.g. how I've made module-device-manager work with the KDE UI

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 08:44 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Hmm, is it then impossible to move event sounds? Doesn't seem like a good way to do it. Any comments? I can't find a way to move event sounds from my laptop speakers to my BT headphone (and my soon-to-come USB audio card I suppose).

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 31/12/09 10:40 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 08:44 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Hmm, is it then impossible to move event sounds? Doesn't seem like a good way to do it. Any comments? I can't find a way to move event sounds from my laptop speakers to

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 11:27 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 31/12/09 10:40 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 08:44 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Hmm, is it then impossible to move event sounds? Doesn't seem like a good way to do it. Any comments? I

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 31/12/09 12:14 did gyre and gimble: For event sounds, however, the only way to get it to be on A is to set A as a default, then in the case A is disconnected, its a toss up whether B or C gets event sounds (I'm sure there's some consistency, but it may not be

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.12.09 07:43, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:45 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.12.09 17:41, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: Is there a way to specify a sound to be a 'system sound' as defined by System Sounds on pavucontrol,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 31/12/09 17:43 did gyre and gimble: There is an API to modify the device for all event streams, however there is no app currently making use of this. Hopefully g-v-c will gain that feature soon. So do you have any particular reason to not implement this

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 31.12.09 18:18, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 31/12/09 17:43 did gyre and gimble: There is an API to modify the device for all event streams, however there is no app currently making use of this. Hopefully g-v-c will gain

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-31 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 14:59 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 31/12/09 12:14 did gyre and gimble: For event sounds, however, the only way to get it to be on A is to set A as a default, then in the case A is disconnected, its a toss up whether B or C gets event

[pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-28 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:45 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.12.09 17:41, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: Is there a way to specify a sound to be a 'system sound' as defined by System Sounds on pavucontrol, when played by paplay? If so, then programs such as pidgin

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-28 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 28/12/09 23:43 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:45 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.12.09 17:41, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: Is there a way to specify a sound to be a 'system sound' as defined by System Sounds on pavucontrol,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Sink for event sounds? WAS: paplay - sound roles?

2009-12-28 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 00:30 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Ng Oon-Ee at 28/12/09 23:43 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:45 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.12.09 17:41, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote: Is there a way to specify a sound to be a