Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 01.01.10 16:58, Bill Cox (waywardg...@gmail.com) wrote: However, even with these changes, there are bugs due to pulseaudio's user-based structure. Today, in Karmic, if I 'switch user' to another use, my new gnome session has no sound. That's because there are two pulseaudio

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 01/01/2010 22:58, Bill Cox a écrit : Are there any ways to get pulseaudio to share the sound card? http://git.0pointer.de/?p=pulseaudio.git;a=blob;f=src/modules/module-console-kit.c;hb=HEAD PA hooks into ConsoleKit and turns itself off when the active user changes. So yes, the daemon is

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Bill Cox at 01/01/10 21:58 did gyre and gimble: However, even with these changes, there are bugs due to pulseaudio's user-based structure. Today, in Karmic, if I 'switch user' to another use, my new gnome session has no sound. That's because there are two pulseaudio

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Markus Rechberger at 02/01/10 01:56 did gyre and gimble: Can you point out to a few requests where people had serious issues with shared audio access during the last 10 years, other unix systems get along quite fine with shared support. The hacking argument is just nonsense,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Bill Cox
Hi, Colin. Here's what I'm thinking of doing. I think PulseAudio should support the concept of a global sound source attached to a card, and whichever pulseaudio system has rights to use the card should be responsPible for processing the global source. Any pulseaudio client could declare

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Bill Cox
Hi, Colin. Sorry about always replying at the top. This is the usual custom for the blind, as they can't easily skip down to the new stuff. I'd prefer not to write new PA modules for each accessibility driver. I think it's very important to make it as easy as possible for existing accessibility

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Bill Cox at 02/01/10 16:04 did gyre and gimble: Hi, Colin. Sorry about always replying at the top. This is the usual custom for the blind, as they can't easily skip down to the new stuff. No problem, exception to bottom posting duely noted :) I'd prefer not to write new

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Bill Cox
Thanks, Colin. I can probably modify speech-dispatcher and speechdup-d to run as gdm on boot. I can probably also modify gdm code to look for speech-dispatcher and speechd-up as well, and relaunch them. It definately feels weird mucking about with the login package, though. However, even with

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Daniel Chen
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com wrote: However, even with these changes, there are bugs due to pulseaudio's user-based structure.  Today, in Karmic, if I 'switch user' to another use, my new gnome session has no sound.  That's because there are two pulseaudio

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Bill Cox
No, the problem happens when I switch to a new user. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Daniel Chen seven.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com wrote: However, even with these changes, there are bugs due to pulseaudio's user-based structure.  Today,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
pe, 2010-01-01 kello 16:58 -0500, Bill Cox kirjoitti: Anyone out there every get hacked because you shared the Alsa back-end with another user? Anyone? I don't think anyone is going to get hacked because of this - it's rather rare that you say your passwords aloud. Instead of hacking issue,

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Markus Rechberger
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Tanu Kaskinen ta...@iki.fi wrote: pe, 2010-01-01 kello 16:58 -0500, Bill Cox kirjoitti: Anyone out there every get hacked because you shared the Alsa back-end with another user?  Anyone? I don't think anyone is going to get hacked because of this - it's rather

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2010-01-01 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
la, 2010-01-02 kello 02:56 +0100, Markus Rechberger kirjoitti: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Tanu Kaskinen ta...@iki.fi wrote: pe, 2010-01-01 kello 16:58 -0500, Bill Cox kirjoitti: Anyone out there every get hacked because you shared the Alsa back-end with another user? Anyone? I

[pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2009-12-31 Thread Bill Cox
I am trying to get Ubuntu/Lucid working well with applications for the blind and visually impaired. Orca is working quite well now with pulseaudio. The other critical application is speakup, which reads text on the Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 consoles. Speakup has issues with pulseaudio, and I need some

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2009-12-31 Thread Bill Cox
I was able to get to a semi-good state by not having pulseaudio autospawn in /etc/pulse/client.conf. The computer comes up silent until I log into gnome, and Orca works. When I switch to a console, it's silent until I log in and restart speechd-up. The problem is that there is no audio at the

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Bill Cox at 31/12/09 16:07 did gyre and gimble: The problem is that there is no audio at the console until I log in. There is also no audio at the gnome login. Grr... AFAIK, the GDM login relies on autospawning, so turing off auto spawning will result in no sound at gdm

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2009-12-31 Thread Bill Cox
Thanks for the info. Is there a simple way to kill off the gdm pulseaduio when the user logs in? Some sort of hook I can tie into? Thanks, Bill On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Bill Cox at 31/12/09 16:07 did gyre and gimble: The

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Using pulseaudio with speakup

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Bill Cox at 31/12/09 17:13 did gyre and gimble: Thanks for the info. Is there a simple way to kill off the gdm pulseaduio when the user logs in? Some sort of hook I can tie into? It should all happen automatically: console-kit will hand over the active session to the user