Hi Karsten,

> On 27. Feb 2021, at 18:18, Karsten Heymann <karsten.heym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> regarding your "no lookup" policy, how do you handle for example deep merge 
> lookups. They cannot be used with automatic data binding, or am I wrong?
> 

we set the merge behavior using hiera data lookup_options.
https://blog.example42.com/2021/02/11/hiera-merge-behavior/ (at the end of the 
post you can see an example).
This allows you to not only set merge behaviour globally, but use the 
hierarchies to even set different lookup options.

e.g. you will deep merge the user hash from all hierarchies, except for one 
system:

# data/common.yaml
lookup_options:
  profile::base::usermgmt::users:
    merge: 'deep'

# data/nodes/<certname>.yaml
lookup_options:
  profile::base::usermgmt::users:
    merge: 'first'

Best,
Martin

> Regards
> Karsten
> 
> Am Sa., 27. Feb. 2021 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Martin Alfke <tux...@gmail.com>:
> Hi
> 
> > On 25. Feb 2021, at 11:59, Dmitry Nurislamov <dmnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello. Sometimes it is desirable to define Hiera variables for usage in 
> > Hiera itself, i.e. variables that won't be looked up from Puppet manifests. 
> > We do this to avoid repetition. Here's an example of a variable used only 
> > in the file it is defined:
> > 
> >     _internal_api_host: 'int.api.example.com'
> >     profile::keepalived::vrrp_script:
> >       ping_internal_api:
> >         script: "curl https://%{lookup('_internal_api_host')}/ping"
> >     profile::nginx::servers:
> >       "%{alias('_internal_api_host')}":
> >         ...
> > 
> > Sometimes we also define this kind of variables in one file but do lookups 
> > somewhere else:
> > 
> > hieradata/project/foo.yaml:
> >     profile::base::network::interfaces:
> >       eth0:
> >         method: 'static'
> >         address: "%{lookup('_INTERNAL_IP')}/24"
> > 
> > hieradata/project/foo/foo1.yaml:
> >     _INTERNAL_IP: '10.1.2.3'
> > 
> > For us this became an issue. There are no conventions, and therefore no 
> > consistency in our quite large hiera. Sometimes we can't even tell whether 
> > some variable is looked up from manifests or is "local" for Hiera. For 
> > example, the "_INTERNAL_IP" above is named 
> > "profile::base::network::intern_ip" in some projects.
> > 
> > The question is... Is this a normal practice? How do other folks handle 
> > these cases? I couldn't find any information regarding this. Thanks.
> 
> This is part of the way how you can implement hiera.
> We heavily use the same pattern to avoid duplicate data.
> Unluckily there is (yet?) no best practices written down.
> 
> Usually we have a pattern that we strictly follow:
> - Never set class parameters on module (technical component or library 
> module) level. Only set data on profile classes.
> - Only do automatic data binding, using profile class namespace on hiera 
> data, never do explizit lookups in profile classes.
>   - e.g.:profile::base::usermgmt::users: {}
> - nested lookups always use short key names, usually prefixed with company or 
> department or team short name
>   - e.g. company_ldap_pass
> 
> This pattern allows us to strictly separate data which are needed multiple 
> times in hiera.
> Using automatic data binding and the name convention on nested lookups, we 
> can easily identify if data is consumed by a class or needed hiera internally.
> 
> hth,
> Martin
> 
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