Re: [Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-22 Thread Trevor Vaughan
Bram and Konrad, I'm personally interested in your perspective on multi-node testing. In my experience with our stack of around 100 modules, I've found that single node testing is marginally better than spec testing in that it tells you if a service actually starts. However, my project has found

Re: [Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-21 Thread Konrad Scherer
On 4/21/20 3:33 AM, Bram Vogelaar wrote: I too find it excruciating to use, I have described it in the past as having a rage inducing cli, and the lack of documentation makes it hard to use. Which has driven me to use test-kitchen for doing puppet acceptance testing. (with the added benefit of

Re: [Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-21 Thread Bram Vogelaar
I too find it excruciating to use, I have described it in the past as having a rage inducing cli, and the lack of documentation makes it hard to use. Which has driven me to use test-kitchen for doing puppet acceptance testing. (with the added benefit of being able to use inspec profiles). In my

Re: [Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-20 Thread 'Dan White' via Puppet Users
Well put, Trevor. I have never used it because I have found it impossible to set up from scratch. "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes) > On Apr 20, 2020, at 10:46

Re: [Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-20 Thread Trevor Vaughan
So, I chimed in over in Slack but wanted to go ahead and respond here with a summary of what we've been talking about there so that it'll be preserved for the future and searchable. This is a summary of multiple views and anyone participating in that discussion should feel free to correct my

[Puppet Users] Beaker - what’s your perspective?

2020-04-17 Thread Gene Liverman
Hi friends! I’m trying to better understand the community perspective on Beaker and its supplemental gems. I’m particularly interested in hearing your thoughts on the state of its maintenance and what, if anything, you’d like to see change in that regard. I’m looking for both positive and negative