Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-27 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
about linux bridge vs ovs performance, I have found an good presentation from 
redhat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbBX_J5zR4w


to resume, linux bridge is a little bit faster than ovs.

But with coming ovs dpdk support, performance will be 5x faster for small 
packets an single flow.

(But will not be easy to implement, need hugepages, vhost-user,...
 http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/sample_app_ug/vhost.html)



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Objet: Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

 ? It's a iptables netflow module. (not openflow, if it's what you have in 
 mind). 

Oh, got it (openflow != netflow). Sorry for the confusion. 
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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Dietmar Maurer
 I have found a very good presentation of new linux bridge features
 
 https://www.netdev01.org/docs/netdev_tutorial_bridge_makita_150213.pdf
 
 including vlan filtering, qinq, mac address filtering (Learning / flooding
 control),...

Thanks, interesting read. So we should disable learning/flooding on tap devices?

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Dietmar Maurer
 Thanks, interesting read. So we should disable learning/flooding on tap
 devices?
 
 I think this could replace mac filtering from pve-firewall. (better than
 iptables, and no need to implement ebtables?)
 
 I haved tested it, seem to works fine.

great!

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[pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
Hi,
I have found a very good presentation of new linux bridge features

https://www.netdev01.org/docs/netdev_tutorial_bridge_makita_150213.pdf

including vlan filtering, qinq, mac address filtering (Learning / flooding 
control),...

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
Thanks, interesting read. So we should disable learning/flooding on tap 
devices?

I think this could replace mac filtering from pve-firewall. (better than 
iptables, and no need to implement ebtables?)

I haved tested it, seem to works fine.



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Objet: Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

 I have found a very good presentation of new linux bridge features 
 
 https://www.netdev01.org/docs/netdev_tutorial_bridge_makita_150213.pdf 
 
 including vlan filtering, qinq, mac address filtering (Learning / flooding 
 control),... 

Thanks, interesting read. So we should disable learning/flooding on tap 
devices? 

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 12:02:01 +0200 (CEST)
Alexandre DERUMIER aderum...@odiso.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have found a very good presentation of new linux bridge features
 
 https://www.netdev01.org/docs/netdev_tutorial_bridge_makita_150213.pdf
 
 including vlan filtering, qinq, mac address filtering (Learning / flooding 
 control),...
 
Nice presentation. Seems to me that linux bridge (since kernel 3.19) is
leveling the feature set with open vswitch. The biggest problem for me
with linux bridge has always been the fact that you need a separate
bridge for each vlan which makes configuration overcomplicated and
messy.

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
Interesting. But its not much code, so I wonder why this is faster than ipt or
nft?

? It's a iptables netflow module. (not openflow, if it's what you have in mind).

I just need something to export netflow from linux bridge (to analyse traffic 
between vm)


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 BTW, ovs have netflow support. I'm looking for something similar for linux 
 bridge. 
 
 I found this: 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipt-netflow/ 

Interesting. But its not much code, so I wonder why this is faster than ipt or 
nft? 
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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Dietmar Maurer
 BTW, ovs have netflow support. I'm looking for something similar for linux
 bridge.
 
 I found this:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipt-netflow/

Interesting. But its not much code, so I wonder why this is faster than ipt or
nft?

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Dietmar Maurer
 ? It's a iptables netflow module. (not openflow, if it's what you have in
 mind).

Oh, got it (openflow != netflow). Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: [pve-devel] linux bridge new features presentation

2015-07-26 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
  (better than
  iptables, and no need to implement ebtables?)

We just need a solution for OVS then (openflow?)

I need to look for ovs.

BTW, ovs have netflow support. I'm looking for something similar for linux 
bridge.

I found this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipt-netflow/


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  (better than 
  iptables, and no need to implement ebtables?) 

We just need a solution for OVS then (openflow?) 
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