Do you think to keep config files in /etc/pve ? (to avoid need to rsync
them ?)
I don't think this is necessary at all, because when the kvm process is
started on the receiving end it goes through the same startup routines
and should thus be creating its own cloud-init config files. So
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Envoyé: Jeudi 18 Juin 2015 15:16:34
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Hey Alexandre,
I don't know if you're already tinkering with rsyncing the iso images,
and wanted to let you know that I'm currently experimenting
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Envoyé: Vendredi 19 Juin 2015 09:24:14
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Do you think to keep config files in /etc/pve
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:06:05PM +0200, Wolfgang Bumiller wrote:
I had to change my mind there (again).
If we add template support it might actually be a better idea to copy it
off into /tmp and rsync it over after all. Because even if we do keep vm
config changes as pending changes,
do we plan to generate cloud-init configdrives file in /etc/pve , as a shared
storage
(to avoid rsync for live migration)
no (but again, there is no need to rsync if all configuration is inside the VM
config)
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Envoyé: Vendredi 19 Juin 2015 09:24:14
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Do you think to keep config files in /etc/pve ? (to avoid need to rsync
them ?)
I don't think this is necessary at all, because when the kvm process is
started
Currently I can't get windows to apply my network config either way. And
the installer doesn't list the network interface. It only provides me
with a completely empty serial port dropdown list...
But the vvfat drive shows up as regular drive with the proper label. So
we'll see. I'll keep trying
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Envoyé: Mercredi 17 Juin 2015 11:40:24
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
I would like to known when do you want to generate
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Envoyé: Jeudi 18 Juin 2015 15:16:34
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Hey Alexandre,
I don't know if you're already tinkering with rsyncing the iso images,
and wanted to let you know that I'm currently
Because setting in 'netX' are hot-pluggable, but ip configuration is not.
What do you think?
I dont remember if we already managed mixing hotplugglaged updates and pending
values for the same element?
for example, we have already disk throttling which is hotpluggled with
non-hotplug disk
,
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Envoyé: Mercredi 17 Juin 2015 13:06:30
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
I would generate
Juin 2015 06:10:50
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Because setting in 'netX' are hot-pluggable, but ip configuration is not.
What do you think?
I dont remember if we already managed mixing hotplugglaged updates and
pending
values for the same element
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Envoyé: Mardi 16 Juin 2015 07:56:36
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
-) Instance ID: VMs need a counter which is bumped at boot time when
there have been changes
I would like to known when do you want to generate the cloudinit iso.
If user change settings (ips,hostname,...), do we want to apply them directly
to configuration ?
or do we want to put them as pending ? (for ip can be ok, for hostname that
seem strange if user want to rename his vm).
values in pending or not ?
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Envoyé: Mercredi 17 Juin 2015 11:40:24
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit
-) We don't really like the whole rebooting after configuration
option. It could be an optional flag, but ideally the user only needs to
boot once, and since the IP options are always available in the GUI it
also wouldn't be harmful to always include the cloud-init drive. This
also improves
Really? AFAIK this did not worked when we tested last time.
I don't have tested them, but code is present in qga linux windows.
But how is that related?
If you need to display current ip address in gui.
OK
(Do you need them for firewall ?)
Yes, but for firewall we want to force a
: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Also, I think we could implement qga :guest-network-get-interfaces
to retrieve network ip config of guests (It's working on qga linux
windows)
Really? AFAIK this did not worked when we tested last time.
But how is that related
: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
Really? AFAIK this did not worked when we tested last time.
I don't have tested them, but code is present in qga linux windows.
But how is that related?
If you need to display current ip address in gui.
OK
(Do you need them
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Envoyé: Lundi 15 Juin 2015 12:52:37
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:07:34PM +0200, Alexandre DERUMIER wrote:
Yes, but for firewall we want to force a specific IP (instead of reading
them from guest).
Ok
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Envoyé: Lundi 15 Juin 2015 12:52:37
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:07:34PM +0200, Alexandre DERUMIER wrote:
Yes, but for firewall we want to force a specific IP (instead of reading
them from guest).
Ok
Here's the current data I gathered:
-) From the UI perspective, the IP address configuration for cloud-init
could be done in the network device's configuration.
-) AFAIK there are ebtable patches to do filtering by mac address around
which are still pending.
re-thought this, and I think
-) For migration support: if we by default keep the config drives around
they need to be stored somewhere on a shared storage. So we need an
option to configure which storage the ISOs end up on. Then they'd appear
in the template/iso/ directory of the configured storage, which has to be a
-) Instance ID: VMs need a counter which is bumped at boot time when
there have been changes since the previous boot (or just bump on every
change, that's easier to implement :P). Cloning needs to reset or bump
the counter as well. (Reset if the source's counter is 1, or bump to 2
if
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Envoyé: Lundi 15 Juin 2015 16:36:14
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
-) For migration support: if we by default keep the config
Also, I think we could implement qga :guest-network-get-interfaces
to retrieve network ip config of guests (It's working on qga linux windows)
Really? AFAIK this did not worked when we tested last time.
But how is that related?
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Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
If you already run you own scripts, does it still makes sense to add that to
the
GUI?
Or do you just need some cli tools to generate the cloud-init iso?
It depend, Sometime I need to create servers with in batch
On June 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM Alexandre DERUMIER aderum...@odiso.com wrote:
dpkg-configure cloud-init , and choose configdrive as only datasource.
I think at start, cloud-init ask to his datasources if they are a new config.
Right, if you can disable this behavior then that's fine. Just need
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Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Juin 2015 10:24:38
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
There are a few things that still confuse me about cloud-init, and the
documentation lacks a description of the very basic mode of operation of
cloud-init. (When does
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51:42PM +0200, Alexandre DERUMIER wrote:
For one, it seems to be started on several points during the init
process. There seem to be 5 different systemd units specified for it
even.
yes, I'm seeing this 4 units.
I'm think they are related to different
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Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Juin 2015 15:25:33
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
It doing nothing is what I'm afraid of. I've tested an ubuntu
OTOH it may be desirable to keep the config datasource attached. That
way the WEB UI's configuration is the permanent one, and changes made
in the running VM to /etc/ (eg. /etc/network/interfaces) are only
temporary.
Otherwise the options in the UI would have to be deleted/greyed out
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Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Juin 2015 18:00:49
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
OTOH it may be desirable to keep the config datasource attached. That
way the WEB UI's configuration is the permanent one
So you simply need to stop/start to apply new values?
I need to check that, but I think yes.
The config is reapply only if the uuid of the configdrive is changed
(they are a uuid symlink with old cloud-init config in
/var/lib/cloud/instance)
My code is wrong, because I take the
-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:51:42PM +0200, Alexandre DERUMIER wrote:
For one, it seems to be started on several points during the init
process. There seem to be 5 different systemd units specified for it
even.
yes, I'm seeing this 4 units
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Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Juin 2015 07:54:06
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
And is that reboot necessary? Its a bit clumsy, because the boot-loader
is presented 2 times to the user.
I forgot to say that I shutdown the vm
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Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Juin 2015 07:17:33
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] RFC: qemu-server : add cloudinit support
And is that reboot necessary? Its a bit clumsy, because the boot-loader
is presented 2 times to the user.
No, but I
How long does such configuration cycle run (start/cloudinit/stop)?
It's fast, maybe 15s after grub for basic network config.
But for example if you want to upgrade packages at first boot or launch
puppet/chef,
it can take a lot more.
And is that reboot necessary? Its a bit clumsy, because
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