you NFS server is quite slow?
> I can't seem to create a new VM on an NFS server using qcow2. The error I get
> is: Error: create failed - unable to create image: got lock timeout - aborting
> command.
>
> I'm createing 15 GB disk, and I end up with a 6.6 GB qcow2 file.
>
> Creating a vmdk VM w
> is there anyway to force a delete command?
> TASK ERROR: storage 'cluster' does not exists
What command fails exactly?
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> In "Datacenter => options" I see I can configure the layout, but I guess this
> will
> change it globally. Is there any way to configure this per user?
No, but you can set it per VM.
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> What about the Live Storage Migration ? Is it planned in this release ?
no, maybe with 3.1
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> For bug 334, I propose adding "Depends: vzctl" to the pve-manager package.
fixed in 3.0
> For bug 349, I propose adding "Conflicts: libcman3, libdlm3, libdlmcontrol3,
> liblogthread3" to the redhat-cluster-pve package.
I am not sure if I want to add/maintain all those conflicts. You already g
> Le 08/05/2013 22:38, Derek W. Poon a écrit :
> > P.S.: On the subject of the pve-user mailing list... there is a
> > subscriberosirisad...@cs.uoregon.edu that is rejecting mail. Every message
> sent to pve-user results in a bounce back to the originator, with the
> explanation
> "Sorry, but o
> Yes I got this answer too to my messages. It seems that someone wrote to the
> list forging the sender as the list 'orisadmin', to which, obviously, we are
> not
> member. So, it would better to unsubscribe this false pve-user mailing list
> member.
Oh, got it now - will remove that user.
Than
why don't you use/read the manual pages?
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Sent: Freitag, 10. Mai 2013 16:57
To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: [PVE-User] how to check commands behind webconsole
actually i perfor
> Because it is more easier for a user to understand where he is making mistakes
> and why command is not working. for example i run the command via following
> the manual format which is mentioned as below
> qm snapshot [OPTIONS]
You can also use:
> qm help snapshot
To get a more detailed hel
what version do you use?
# pveversion -v
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Sent: Freitag, 17. Mai 2013 09:06
To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: [PVE-User] error "qm set" command
it is throwing this error
root@v
maybe you ca use the sersail option, for examply:
# qm set -serial0 /deb/ttyS3
> Hi everyone,
> I have server with PVE 3.0 RC2 and RS232 PCIe card installed [1]. I have
> created
> new VM, but on Hardware tab, under "Add" button I do not see any PCIe cards
> (only HDD/CD/NIC), or RS232 ports. Is
> > # qm set -serial0 /deb/ttyS3
> Hi Dietmar,
> Thanks for the hint. Should I run this command from shell terminal on Host, or
> rather from "Monitor" tab in web administration panel?
Yes, this is a shell command.
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> I just instaled a test system With Debian Wheezy and PVE 3.0 .
> When I try to star the first created VM, it returns this error :
> WARNING: failed to find acpi-dsdt.aml
> qemu: could not load PC BIOS 'bios.bin'
What is the output of
# pveversion -v
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> Hi,
> after issuing command:
> # qm set 100 -serial0 /dev/ttyS0
>
> I have noticed that in /etc/pve/qemu-server/100.conf new line has
> appeared: 'serial0: /dev/ttyS0'
>
> Wouldn't it be enough just to add such a line in config file of VM to add
> serial
> ports?
Yes, that is exactly what abo
> I just instaled a test system With Debian Wheezy and PVE 3.0 .
> When I try to star the first created VM, it returns this error :
> WARNING: failed to find acpi-dsdt.aml
> qemu: could not load PC BIOS 'bios.bin'
This file is part of the pve-qemu-kvm package:
# dpkg -L pve-qemu-kvm|grep acpi-dsd
qmrestoret is for KVM
vzrestore if for OpenVZ
so please use vzrestore if 101 is a container.
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Lutz Markus Willek
> Sent: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 08:44
> To: pve-user@pve.p
This works for me, for example:
# vzdump 100 --stdout|qmrestore - 500
Do you use the latest packages?
> -Original Message-
> From: Lutz Willek [mailto:l.wil...@science-computing.de]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 09:22
> To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Su
Proxmox uses rgmanager
> i have a 3-Node Setup with Pacemaker. Everything works fine.
> From my ISP i get a Failover IP (Provider is Hetzner.de).
> Each of this Serves has a WAN NIC an LAN NIC. The WAN NIC has VLAN tagging
> for each Port. So i have to cann an Service from Hetzner to Route the Fai
What is the output of:
# /usr/bin/kvm --version
> -Original Message-
> From: Fábio Rabelo [mailto:fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 01:31
> To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] PVE 3.0
>
> I allready did th
> Or is this not recommended at all?
This is not recommended (and not tested).
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> The release of PVE 3.0 includes a solution to my issue ???
You need to test that yourself (update). I simply can't reproduce the issue
here.
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> from backup file to restore a vm,and then will be more a unused
> disk in the new vm config
> can be removed it in the restore process ?
Your VM contained a drive which was not part of the backup. Such drives are
added as unused disks.
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local:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2 != k122101:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2
From: lyt_yudi [mailto:lyt_y...@126.com]
Sent: Samstag, 25. Mai 2013 09:31
To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: RE: [PVE-User] about restore a new vm and then more a unused vmdisk in
config
Thks your reply
> if enable "dir: k122101" config,I restore it and then appear:
> unused0: local:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2 (choose k122101 as restore new vm
> storage ) or
> unused0:k122101:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2 (choose local as restore new vm
> storage )
The question is what files/config are in the backup (vma
> if enable "dir: k122101" config,I restore it and then appear:
> unused0: local:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2 (choose k122101 as restore new vm
> storage ) or
> unused0:k122101:200/vm-200-disk-1.qcow2 (choose local as restore new vm
> storage )
Wait - I guess I can see the problem now. Will try to fix
> I have the same problem here.
> I've used the upgrade script from the doc to do the upgrade from a clean 2.3
> installation.
> But no "clone" option for me too
The you still use the old GUI - try to clean your browser cache and reload.
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You rebooted the server?
> Weird question. I am sure this is easy, but I can't figure out where to change
> this.
>
> I changed the IP address of a server from 192.168.1.X to 10.10.10.x
>
> All good, I can login from web no problem and at the console.
>
> However it says at console screen to lo
> don't know if I can provide bandwidth metering capabilities so they would
> know where they are in terms of their allotted monthly bandwidth for the
> server, and how much they've gone over, if any.
There is not really a API for this. We just have a simply RRD database (shown
on the GUI).
But s
> Is there any possibility to re-initialize existing Proxmox CT with another
> template?
no, currently not.
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> A little question about privileges :
> As there is lack of information in the documentation regarding the
> privileges list, can we assume that the user "administrator" have all the
> privileges or is there other ones ?
The role 'Administrator' have all privileges.
> I'm wondering if I could install Pve 3 on an existent Ubuntu Lucid 32 bits
> server...
> Is it possible??
we only provide packages for amd64.
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> Proxmox stores KVM virtual disk images in /var/lib/vz/images/*/* with
> permissions 0644,root,root. It seems to me a security risk for the images to
> be
> world readable. In fact, the virtual machines can function just fine with
> permissions 0600.
>
> Are the default permissions configurabl
>Does anyone know the reasons behind that decision?
>
>In my experience, Linux software RAID is exceptional in performance and
>stability.
My experience is 100% different. I guess we will try to support software RAID
when we switch to BTRFS. Doing it at file-system level makes more sense to me.
> however if I try the same via CURL..
>
> curl -s -k -XPOST -H 'CSRFPreventionToken:$CSRFPreventionToken'
> '$host/api2/json/nodes/proxmox02/qemu/20011/config' -b
> 'PVEAuthCookie=$key' -d 'net0=e1000,bridge=vmbr20'
IDoes it work if you use:
--data-urlencode 'net0=e1000,bridge=vmbr20'
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What kernel do you use exactly?
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[mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Fábio Rabelo
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2013 21:09
To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: [PVE-User] bug in pve kernel
Just installed PVE3 on a gigabyte board with realtek
> Honestly i hope proxmox will drop openvz support in favour of LXC.
>
> This is a very good idea, by the way !!!
And you are 100% sure this is a good idea? You testest LXC?
My feeling is that not everybody understand the whole issue.
Besides, newer vzctl also run on vanilla kernel (with same r
Does it help if you restart service ' rrdcached' (and maybe 'pve-cluster')?
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of franc.rodrig...@tecob.com
> Sent: Montag, 22. Juli 2013 11:43
> To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
>
> One last question: If I wanted to install a Windows machine with the SPICE
> graphics card, will the installer work before the driver is installed over the
> SPICE Client?
yes
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> I've read about spice , and am unclear on its possible uses.
>
> Can it be used to allow a secure connection to a kvm desktop? If so
> can that be made to be as secure as a vpn connection?
All traffic is encrypted using TLSv1
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already fixed in git.
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Fabrizio Cuseo
> Sent: Samstag, 27. Juli 2013 17:14
> To: proxmoxve (pve-user@pve.proxmox.com)
> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] SPICE for Proxmox VE (pvete
> I am trying to use aSpice for android with Proxmox and Spice without
> success.
> The configuration of the client needs:
> - Ip address
> - Port
> - TLS port
> - Certificate Authority
> - Cert Subject
> - Spice Password
We use a proxy, so the client needs to support connections via proxy.
> The physical hardware of the system is in perfect working order, with no
> problems handling the I/O load. Is it possible this use case (large amounts
> of very
> small files) is not handled correctly by the virtualization storage layer? At
> this
> time I'm using the 'RAW' file format, present
> Greetings Dietmar-
>
> The OS inside the VM is CentOS 5.8:
>
> [root@zmail ~]# uname -a
> Linux x.x.com 2.6.18-308.4.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Tue Apr 17 17:47:38
> EDT 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
That kernel is quite old (maybe a ext3 bug with that kernel).
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> Is it possible to have multiple proxmox clusters running in one single
> physical
> LAN/subnet
yes, they will uses a different multicast address. Just make sure that you use
a different cluster name.
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> Now, I would like to do the HA failover (if my first server is going down, the
> second server assumes the functions) and I´m a little bit confused.
HA with 2 nodes is clumsy, because of quorum problems.
> I read a lot of articles and came across with Fencing.
>
> Question: I need config the
> So which the best way to do a HA with ISCSI shared storage?
see:
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/High_Availability_Cluster
and
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Two-Node_High_Availability_Cluster
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See Quorum Disk:
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Two-Node_High_Availability_Cluster
>http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/SBD_Fencing
>
>Has anyone of you worked with sbd (and Proxmox)?
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This is expected behavior (not a bug).
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Gilberto Nunes
> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. August 2013 16:31
> To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: [PVE-User] Bug 105
>
> Hello frie
> I just noticed that vzdump logs differ in locale (month-name) depending on
> whether they were run from GUI or by the scheduled backup.
>
> If run from GUI, they seem to use C locale.
>
> If run from scheduled backup, they use system default locale (in my case
> es_ES).
And what locale should
> Does this mean that if we dont subscribe we will be using the equivalent of
> the previous test repository?
no
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> Is pvetest definitively dismissed?
yes
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We have new repository names:
see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Package_repositories
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Yann Cohen
> Sent: Donnerstag, 22. August 2013 19:39
> To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yann Cohen [mailto:y...@ianco.org]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 22. August 2013 21:51
> To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] New comer and migration problem...
>
>
>
> Le jeudi 22 août 2013 à 17:46 +0
> - Can this be caused simply by the higher load on the older nodes? E.g, if I
> try
> to turn off all KVM machines, will the output of pveperf be any different?
Please turn off all KVM machines before running pveperf, then post results
again.
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> From my point of view, this sounds like an ideal thing for a two node setup.
>From my point of view this is a very complex setup, hard to maintain.
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> HTTP proxy connection failed: 401 invalid ticket
I guess the ticket is expired - AFAIK the lifetime is just 30 seconds.
From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com
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Sent: Montag, 26. August 2013 13:00
To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
S
I guess you need to debug the server side to see what is wrong.
From: Ирек Фасихов [mailto:malm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Montag, 26. August 2013 13:53
To: Dietmar Maurer
Cc: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] SpiceProxy Bug?
between downloading and running no more than 10 seconds
Do you have correct system time (in sync) on all cluster nodes?
> -Original Message-
> From: Fábio Rabelo [mailto:fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br]
> Sent: Montag, 26. August 2013 14:16
> To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] SpiceProxy Bug?
> Like I said, probably something you in "developed world" will not face, but I
> live in Brazil, and here it happens in daily basis ...
Sorry, I simply can't imagine what could be wrong. TCP should function exactly
the same in Brazil.
It would help much if you find a reproducible test case.
> > If you're running Linux there is no reason not to use it and I would
> > only consider using KVM if I was running Windows or there was some
> > fundamental reason that demanded full virtualisation. I haven't found
> > one yet.
>
> Unfortunately as far as I know Proxmox doesn't allow High
> Ava
What file-system do you use on that nodes (ext3, ext4 or xfs)?
> -Original Message-
> From: Frederic Van Espen [mailto:frederic...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Dienstag, 27. August 2013 20:49
> To: Dietmar Maurer
> Cc: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] RAID
> currently ext4. Would that make a great difference?
yes, that can make a difference.
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> after updating one of our nodes to 3.1, I cannot access it directly with a
> browser. In the /var/log/syslog, I can see the following error messages:
>
> Aug 30 17:41:31 proxmox05 pveproxy[2799]: problem with client 10.1.5.17;
> rsa_eay_public_decrypt: padding check failed Aug 30 17:41:31 prox
> And in my autofs.nfs i have
>
> nas -fstype=nfs4 X.X.X.X:/mnt/nas
I am not sure if gluster supports nfs v4 - try using v3 instead.
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> Hi all, I'm using Proxmox 3.0-20 as cluster with 2 nodes, pve1 and pve2. It
> has
> only local storage, local(pve1) and local(pve2)
>
> 1. I create a VM, vm1-test on pve1 node.
> 2. I clone vm1-test from pve1 node to pve2 node named vm2-test
This should fail! Or did you mark local storage as
> Yes, it was marked as shared.
Please remove that flag (only set this if storage is really shared)
> My goal is to use local(pve1) and local(pve2) like two different storage
> locations. Is it possible?
They are different (so they are not shared).
Cloning to other noded only works if storage i
> We're planning a setup for a client, which would have VMs in a LinuxRAID
> partition storage. Linux RAID will be composed of a local disk and a remote
> iSCSI
> disk.
>
> Is this configuration supported in Proxmox subscriptions?
We do not support software RAID.
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> But, I can only have HA feature if I let the server connected at the power
> supply.
> If I pull the server power supply, and all VM's going to down...
> Now I'm here trying to understand "How can I use iDrac feature on a
> R410 Dell Server".
Only use such fence devices if your power supply is
> which means redundant power supply?
no - don't use iDRAC if you want reliable HA
>
> 2013/9/20 Dietmar Maurer
> > But, I can only have HA feature if I let the server connected at the power
> supply.
> > If I pull the server power supply, and all VM's going
> My God man!... rsrsrs...
> I was very excited here because I read a lot of papers saying that iDrac is a
> good
> choise!
Please can you point me to those 'papers'?
> Now you put down with this "solution"...
> What kind of hardware can you suggest to assemble the HA solutions?
Something like
> Ok... Not a lot, but at least one:
>
> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Fencing#Dell_servers
That just describe how to do it.
> Ok... APC... But what bother me is the fact that we need at least 3 nodes to
> make HA work.
> Other solution like XenServer, which is now OpenSource, allow me to do HA wi
> > Something like APC, ...
> I think you meant UPS? :)
APC is a vendor for UPS systems.
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> Well That's a different approach... But still we will need an APC or
> whatever to make fence...
> Why this is so mandatory? With XenServer this kind of hardware is not
> necessary...
Well, that is what they claim - in reality, a working fencing infrastructure is
mandatory for reliable H
> Yeah... I see your point...
>
> We need more than 3 elements to build a reliable HA environment...
> I will reconsider all this point...
Yes, but that is not the only point.
If you do not have fencing devices, your cluster cannot be sure that other nodes
are really offline - that is theoretica
> About IPMI provider by Dell Servers? It cold be work as a fence device?
Same disadvantage as DRAC (depends on power supply).
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multicast packages (corosync)
> -Original Message-
> From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com [mailto:pve-user-
> boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Tanács Dávid Szilveszter
> Sent: Mittwoch, 25. September 2013 11:44
> To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
> Subject: [PVE-User] UDP packages to unk
maybe you can try with newer kernel:
pve-kernel-2.6.32-24-pve_2.6.32-111_amd64.deb
From: pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com
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Sent: Mittwoch, 25. September 2013 12:04
To: pve-user pve.proxmox.com
Subject: [PVE-User] Serious error
it contains the latest e1000e driver from intel.
From: Pongrácz István [mailto:pongracz.ist...@gmail.com]
Sent: Mittwoch, 25. September 2013 12:25
To: Dietmar Maurer; pve-user pve.proxmox.com
Subject: RE: [PVE-User] Serious error with e1000e driver with Intel
Corporation82574L NIC
Thank you
> Someone here can point to me, some devices to build fence with Proxmox HA
> Cluster solution??
What kind of UPS do you use for your cluster nodes?
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You can use the /dev/disk/by-XYZ device links.
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Sent: Mittwoch, 02. Oktober 2013 10:18
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Subject: [PVE-User] Quorom disk on different devices
Hi list!
I have se
If you want HA (rgamanger) your need to configure that first (i.e fencing).
see: http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/High_Availability_Cluster
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> Without subscription you have only access to the pve-no-subsciption
> repository,
> and I suppose the upgrade script was not updated to reflect this change. I
> suppose you don't have a valid (at least community) subscription ?
AFAIK, the upgrade script does not add the enterprise repository.
> > Without subscription you have only access to the pve-no-subsciption
> > repository, and I suppose the upgrade script was not updated to
> > reflect this change. I suppose you don't have a valid (at least community)
> subscription ?
>
> AFAIK, the upgrade script does not add the enterprise repo
> Yes I'm afraid so..
>
> I've run it a few times now with the same effect each time.
as workaround, just uncomment the enterprise repository in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/pve-enterprise.list
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> Is is possible to run proxmox using the default debian wheezy 3.2 kernel? I
> know
> I wont be able to use OpenVZ, but is that all I will be giving up?
That is totally untested.
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Why do you have such 'duplicate PV' Warnings?
> The copy went through, completeing to 100%, I've attached the log. The copy
> failed on 'remove ioctl'. Now I have an active working drive on local, and a
> duplicate drive on the iSCSI, and I can't remove the iSCSI drive.
>
> Any help appreciated
If you send me the file /var/lib/pve-cluster/config.db I can try to repair it.
> My question is that how can i mount /dev/fuse device to /etc/pve and how
> repair config.db file ?
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> Can anyone give a hint where the fault could be found?
Any hints in /var/log/syslog?
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> Dec 7 00:44:26 proxmox pvedaemon[2356]: successful auth for user
> 'root@pam'
This indicates a successful login?
> Dec 7 00:44:26 proxmox pmxcfs[2154]: [main] notice: ignore duplicate
But above line looks strange. Would you mind to send me your configuration
database?
I am interested in t
> Why? Because the cluster is without fence device??
HA does not work without working fence devices.
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> it seems that PVE depends on rsyslog. This is a pitty as I centralise all
> logs with
> syslog-ng.
>
> There is an open bug about this issue :
> https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198
>
> Is there a plan to address it ?
You can also forward the logs with rsyslog.
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[mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] On Behalf Of Gilberto Nunes
Sent: Freitag, 15. November 2013 18:38
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Subject: [PVE-User] Spice and Proxmox VE
Hello Friends...
In a discussion, someone ask
> > You can also forward the logs with rsyslog.
>
> Good point, I'll try to configure that.
> And ... about my question ?
what question?
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> Is it possible to change the default Graphic Card for new VM's to "Spice"?
no, currently not.
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> The node that booted properly, did not start any VMs. Reported error is:
> Task: "Start all VMs and Containers"
> Error: Error cluster not ready - no quorum?
>
> So, it is true that there wasn't quorum, as only 1 of 2 nodes were up.
> But all the VMs were on non-shared disks, so I'd expect that
> > No, you cannot do anything without quorum.
> >
> We were able to start VMs manually (without quorum)... :) Which seems a bit
> odd (I was glad we were able! :)
If you have a 2 node cluster, and you know that the other node is down, you
can set the number of expected nodes to 1:
# pvecm expect
> >> We were able to start VMs manually (without quorum)... :) Which seems
> >> a bit odd (I was glad we were able! :)
> > If you have a 2 node cluster, and you know that the other node is
> > down, you can set the number of expected nodes to 1:
> >
> > # pvecm expected 1
> >
> > after that you sho
> >>> after that you should have quorum and you can start VMs.
> >> We were able to start VMs manually without doing this. Is there some
> >> kind of timeout?
I assume your second node joined the cluster after some time?
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> Is there any "final" action in the backup process that could take some time,
> or is
> there any size limit in the "snapshot" with the new qemu-based system?
No. Is that behavior reproducible?
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> 1. Is the aplinfo.dat file auto-generated? Can you update it easily? The wiki
> [4]
> somehow suggests that the amd64 templates are second-class, and should be
> handled manually. My feeling is that this page is outdated (troubleshooting
> section talks about 1.8).
First, the GUI does not handl
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