Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Bart Lageweg | Bizway
High I/O when you backup ?

Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you have a good 
backup!)

Van: pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] Namens Gilberto Nunes
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
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Onderwerp: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

Hello
I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.
This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6 different 
parts, in order to allocate different databases...
The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file with 13 
GB size!
However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.
The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30 minutes!!!
I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!
Can anybody assist me??
Thanks

Gilberto Ferreira

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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I was
ran backup in USB devices.
But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not an
issue here...
And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to all
databases as I described before...

If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
Thank you


2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

  High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you have a
 good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6 different
 parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file
 with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



 Gilberto Ferreira






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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Bart Lageweg | Bizway
I/O in VM when you backup (SQL tasks etc) is slowing down backup.

Van: Gilberto Nunes [mailto:gilberto.nune...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:55
Aan: Bart Lageweg | Bizway
CC: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Onderwerp: Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I was ran 
backup in USB devices.
But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not an issue 
here...
And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to all 
databases as I described before...

If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
Thank you

2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway 
b...@bizway.nlmailto:b...@bizway.nl:
High I/O when you backup ?

Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you have a good 
backup!)

Van: pve-user 
[mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.commailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com]
 Namens Gilberto Nunes
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
Aan: pve-user@pve.proxmox.commailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Onderwerp: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

Hello
I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.
This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6 different 
parts, in order to allocate different databases...
The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file with 13 
GB size!
However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.
The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30 minutes!!!
I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!
Can anybody assist me??
Thanks

Gilberto Ferreira




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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
Perhaps!
But I have other VM's with SQL Server and running smoothly...

Thanks anyway


2014-08-27 13:57 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

  I/O in VM when you backup (SQL tasks etc) is slowing down backup.



 *Van:* Gilberto Nunes [mailto:gilberto.nune...@gmail.com]
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:55
 *Aan:* Bart Lageweg | Bizway
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 *Onderwerp:* Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I was
 ran backup in USB devices.

 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not an
 issue here...

 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to all
 databases as I described before...



 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...

 Thank you



 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

  High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you have a
 good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6 different
 parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file
 with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
question, for a moment...
But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the I/O
performance...  But no success...
The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
Storage...

I'm still search the cause of issue...

Thank you BTW...


2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I was
 ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not an
 issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to
 all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you have
 a good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file
 with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



 Gilberto Ferreira






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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Iosif Peterfi
Maybe you will have better performance if you split them. So keep the
busiest database on IBM storage and put the others on USB. This way you
share the I/O load.

Regards,
Iosif


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
 question, for a moment...
 But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the I/O
 performance...  But no success...
 The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
 Storage...

 I'm still search the cause of issue...

 Thank you BTW...


 2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I was
 ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not an
 issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to
 all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you
 have a good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo file
 with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
Just for compare, the very same backup from same VM takes 50 minutes, on
previously scenario, I meant, run in a single IBM M4 server with SAS
disks...
Now, in the Storage and an IBM x3250 M4 server, with 128GB of memory, takes
6 hours!
I can't understand why! So weird!



2014-08-27 14:21 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com:

 Well... This not justify all this low performance, since the VM previously
 ran on another IBM machine with single SAS and backup task ran nicely.
 Since the VM now running in high level enterprise Storage, I expected more
 performance, if I am not wrong with that...


 2014-08-27 14:13 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Maybe you will have better performance if you split them. So keep the
 busiest database on IBM storage and put the others on USB. This way you
 share the I/O load.

 Regards,
 Iosif


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
 question, for a moment...
 But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the I/O
 performance...  But no success...
 The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
 Storage...

 I'm still search the cause of issue...

 Thank you BTW...


 2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I
 was ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is not
 an issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used to
 all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you
 have a good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens 
 *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo
 file with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB
 size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
 Is the storage over iSCSI ?

Yes! Standard iSCSI. I not enable trunk yet, I meant, bonding... You know...

 Is the storage via 1GB link ?

Yes... Switch gigaethernet, CAT6 and all NIC are gigaethernet as well...




2014-08-27 14:33 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Is the storage over iSCSI ? Is the storage via 1GB link ?


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just for compare, the very same backup from same VM takes 50 minutes, on
 previously scenario, I meant, run in a single IBM M4 server with SAS
 disks...
 Now, in the Storage and an IBM x3250 M4 server, with 128GB of memory,
 takes 6 hours!
 I can't understand why! So weird!



 2014-08-27 14:21 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com:

 Well... This not justify all this low performance, since the VM
 previously ran on another IBM machine with single SAS and backup task ran
 nicely.
 Since the VM now running in high level enterprise Storage, I expected
 more performance, if I am not wrong with that...


 2014-08-27 14:13 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Maybe you will have better performance if you split them. So keep the
 busiest database on IBM storage and put the others on USB. This way you
 share the I/O load.

 Regards,
 Iosif


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
 question, for a moment...
 But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the
 I/O performance...  But no success...
 The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
 Storage...

 I'm still search the cause of issue...

 Thank you BTW...


 2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since I
 was ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is
 not an issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used
 to all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when you
 have a good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens 
 *Gilberto
 Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo
 file with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB
 size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Iosif Peterfi
Probably there is the bottleneck. 1Gbit = 100MB/s. Probably your SAS might
be faster than considering it uses SATA II 300 MB/s or SATA III 600 MB/s.



On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Is the storage over iSCSI ?

 Yes! Standard iSCSI. I not enable trunk yet, I meant, bonding... You
 know...

  Is the storage via 1GB link ?

 Yes... Switch gigaethernet, CAT6 and all NIC are gigaethernet as well...




 2014-08-27 14:33 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Is the storage over iSCSI ? Is the storage via 1GB link ?


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just for compare, the very same backup from same VM takes 50 minutes, on
 previously scenario, I meant, run in a single IBM M4 server with SAS
 disks...
 Now, in the Storage and an IBM x3250 M4 server, with 128GB of memory,
 takes 6 hours!
 I can't understand why! So weird!



 2014-08-27 14:21 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com:

 Well... This not justify all this low performance, since the VM
 previously ran on another IBM machine with single SAS and backup task ran
 nicely.
 Since the VM now running in high level enterprise Storage, I expected
 more performance, if I am not wrong with that...


 2014-08-27 14:13 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Maybe you will have better performance if you split them. So keep the
 busiest database on IBM storage and put the others on USB. This way you
 share the I/O load.

 Regards,
 Iosif


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
 question, for a moment...
 But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the
 I/O performance...  But no success...
 The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
 Storage...

 I'm still search the cause of issue...

 Thank you BTW...


 2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since
 I was ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is
 not an issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being used
 to all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when
 you have a good backup!)



 *Van:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-boun...@pve.proxmox.com] *Namens
 *Gilberto Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
 *Aan:* pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo
 file with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120 GB
 size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
ok


2014-08-27 15:14 GMT-03:00 Dietmar Maurer diet...@proxmox.com:

 Please can you stop double posting to the list and the forum?





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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Gilberto Nunes
Well I don´t know exactly but perhaps the reason is because the VM is
hosted over LVM-on-iSCSI???
Just a idea...I am really lost here...Trying find a reason to explain all
the lost of performance...
I took all necessary cares about cables, switches, storage and now a simple
backup task takes so long to finish... I am stunned!...


2014-08-27 14:53 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Probably there is the bottleneck. 1Gbit = 100MB/s. Probably your SAS might
 be faster than considering it uses SATA II 300 MB/s or SATA III 600 MB/s.



 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is the storage over iSCSI ?

 Yes! Standard iSCSI. I not enable trunk yet, I meant, bonding... You
 know...

  Is the storage via 1GB link ?

 Yes... Switch gigaethernet, CAT6 and all NIC are gigaethernet as well...




 2014-08-27 14:33 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Is the storage over iSCSI ? Is the storage via 1GB link ?


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just for compare, the very same backup from same VM takes 50 minutes,
 on previously scenario, I meant, run in a single IBM M4 server with SAS
 disks...
 Now, in the Storage and an IBM x3250 M4 server, with 128GB of memory,
 takes 6 hours!
 I can't understand why! So weird!



 2014-08-27 14:21 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com:

 Well... This not justify all this low performance, since the VM
 previously ran on another IBM machine with single SAS and backup task ran
 nicely.
 Since the VM now running in high level enterprise Storage, I expected
 more performance, if I am not wrong with that...


 2014-08-27 14:13 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Maybe you will have better performance if you split them. So keep the
 busiest database on IBM storage and put the others on USB. This way you
 share the I/O load.

 Regards,
 Iosif


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, I do not have such luxury by now... SSD is out of the
 question, for a moment...
 But I changed from USB device to SAS device, in hope to improve the
 I/O performance...  But no success...
 The VM itself, is running is SAS as well, since it hosted in an IBM
 Storage...

 I'm still search the cause of issue...

 Thank you BTW...


 2014-08-27 14:04 GMT-03:00 Iosif Peterfi iosif.pete...@gmail.com:

 Mitigate the I/O bottleneck by assigning different hard drives, even
 consider using enterprise grade ssd.




 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Gilberto Nunes 
 gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum... At first moment, I thought I/O could being a trouble, since
 I was ran backup in USB devices.
 But now, I ran backup task on SAS disk! So performance and I/O is
 not an issue here...
 And, I can't shrink the file, because the entire disk is being
 used to all databases as I described before...

 If somebody else has any other advice, I will appreciate...
  Thank you


 2014-08-27 13:47 GMT-03:00 Bart Lageweg | Bizway b...@bizway.nl:

   High I/O when you backup ?



 Try https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Shrink_Qcow2_Disk_Files (when
 you have a good backup!)



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 *Gilberto Nunes
 *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 augustus 2014 18:47
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 *Onderwerp:* [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish



 Hello

 I have a VM with Windows 2012 running nicely in PVE 3.2.

 This VM has a 300 GB disk size that was re-partition with 5 or 6
 different parts, in order to allocate different databases...

 The issue is that the backup task takes 6 hours to generate a lzo
 file with 13 GB size!

 However, I have another VM, which is Windows 2008 with disk 120
 GB size.

 The backup makes 74 GB file of size, and takes approximately 30
 minutes!!!

 I can't see why the first task took so long time to finish!!!

 Can anybody assist me??

 Thanks



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Re: [PVE-User] backup takes so long to finish

2014-08-27 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:36:19 -0300
Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a idea...I am really lost here...Trying find a reason to explain all
 the lost of performance...
 I took all necessary cares about cables, switches, storage and now a simple
 backup task takes so long to finish... I am stunned!...
 
How about alignment. Is the LVM volume properly aligned to the iSCSI
disk?
Is the file system in the guest aware of the alignment in LVM?
Since LVM defaults to 4k alignment you could try experimenting with
advanced format of your Windows disk -
http://blogs.technet.com/b/filecab/archive/2011/04/26/using-4k-sector-and-advanced-format-drives-in-windows-hotfix-and-support-info-for-windows-server-2008-r2-and-windows-7.aspx

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