Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Hervé, Glad to read this :) Cheers El 14/5/20 a las 16:48, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi Eneko, Thanks again for trying to help me. Now, the problem is solved! We upgraded our entire cluster in PVE 6.2 and now all is optimal, including HA status. We just upgraded each nodes, didn't change anything else (I mean in term of configuration file). Here, I'm just stating a fact, I don't say that this is the upgrade process that are solved our problems... Indeed we are trying to investigate with network engineers who manage the network equipments of our datacenter in order to see if something was happening at the moment where our cluster had crashed. I will let you know if I have the answer to that mystery... Cheers, Hervé On 12/05/2020 15:00, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, El 11/5/20 a las 17:58, Herve Ballans escribió: Thanks for your answer. I was also thinking at first a network issue but physical network equipments don't seem to be showing any specific problems...Here are more details on the cluster: 2x10Gb + 2x1Gb interface: * a 10Gb interface for ceph cluster * a 10Gb interface for main network cluster * the other 2 1Gb interfaces are used for two other VLAN for the VMs Can you post "pvecm status" to see cluster network IPs? "ip a" for a node? "cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf "? All network interfaces go to the same switch? PVE 6.2 has been released and it supports multiple networks for cluster. I suggest you look at it and configure a second network that uses another switch. In the logs you sent, I can see that there are grave cluster problems, at 18:38:58 I can see only nodes 1,3,4,5 in quorum Also, at 18:39:01 I can see ceph-mon complaining about slow ops and failed timeout for osd.5 . I really think there is a network issue. Ceph and Proxmox clusters are completely separate, but they're both having issues. I'd try to change the networking switch; I'd try even a 1G switch just to see if that makes Proxmox cluster and ceph stable. Are 10G interfaces very loaded? Cheers Eneko On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Mark, Thanks. Yes we are investigating with network engineers. We upgraded the entire cluster in PVE 6.2 and the cluster is fully operational now. But we think indeed that something in the network has changed and caused the problem (switch upgrades ?) Therefore, for example, does activating or disabling the IGMP protocol could have an impact on corosync or not (in PVE 6) ? Regards, Hervé On 11/05/2020 19:33, Mark Adams via pve-user wrote: Subject: Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster From: Mark Adams Date: 11/05/2020 à 19:33 To: PVE User List As Eneko already said, this really sounds like a network problem - if your hosts lose connectivity to each other they will reboot themselves, and it sounds like this is what happened to you. You are sure there has been no changes to your network around the time this happened? Have you checked your switch config is still right (maybe it reset?) Maybe the switches have bugged out and need a reboot? check the logs on them for errors. ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Eneko, Thanks again for trying to help me. Now, the problem is solved! We upgraded our entire cluster in PVE 6.2 and now all is optimal, including HA status. We just upgraded each nodes, didn't change anything else (I mean in term of configuration file). Here, I'm just stating a fact, I don't say that this is the upgrade process that are solved our problems... Indeed we are trying to investigate with network engineers who manage the network equipments of our datacenter in order to see if something was happening at the moment where our cluster had crashed. I will let you know if I have the answer to that mystery... Cheers, Hervé On 12/05/2020 15:00, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, El 11/5/20 a las 17:58, Herve Ballans escribió: Thanks for your answer. I was also thinking at first a network issue but physical network equipments don't seem to be showing any specific problems...Here are more details on the cluster: 2x10Gb + 2x1Gb interface: * a 10Gb interface for ceph cluster * a 10Gb interface for main network cluster * the other 2 1Gb interfaces are used for two other VLAN for the VMs Can you post "pvecm status" to see cluster network IPs? "ip a" for a node? "cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf "? All network interfaces go to the same switch? PVE 6.2 has been released and it supports multiple networks for cluster. I suggest you look at it and configure a second network that uses another switch. In the logs you sent, I can see that there are grave cluster problems, at 18:38:58 I can see only nodes 1,3,4,5 in quorum Also, at 18:39:01 I can see ceph-mon complaining about slow ops and failed timeout for osd.5 . I really think there is a network issue. Ceph and Proxmox clusters are completely separate, but they're both having issues. I'd try to change the networking switch; I'd try even a 1G switch just to see if that makes Proxmox cluster and ceph stable. Are 10G interfaces very loaded? Cheers Eneko On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Hervé, El 11/5/20 a las 17:58, Herve Ballans escribió: Thanks for your answer. I was also thinking at first a network issue but physical network equipments don't seem to be showing any specific problems...Here are more details on the cluster: 2x10Gb + 2x1Gb interface: * a 10Gb interface for ceph cluster * a 10Gb interface for main network cluster * the other 2 1Gb interfaces are used for two other VLAN for the VMs Can you post "pvecm status" to see cluster network IPs? "ip a" for a node? "cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf "? All network interfaces go to the same switch? PVE 6.2 has been released and it supports multiple networks for cluster. I suggest you look at it and configure a second network that uses another switch. In the logs you sent, I can see that there are grave cluster problems, at 18:38:58 I can see only nodes 1,3,4,5 in quorum Also, at 18:39:01 I can see ceph-mon complaining about slow ops and failed timeout for osd.5 . I really think there is a network issue. Ceph and Proxmox clusters are completely separate, but they're both having issues. I'd try to change the networking switch; I'd try even a 1G switch just to see if that makes Proxmox cluster and ceph stable. Are 10G interfaces very loaded? Cheers Eneko On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user -- Zuzendari Teknikoa / Director Técnico Binovo IT Human Project, S.L. Telf. 943569206 Astigarragako bidea 2, 2º izq. oficina 11; 20180 Oiartzun (Gipuzkoa) www.binovo.es ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
--- Begin Message --- As Eneko already said, this really sounds like a network problem - if your hosts lose connectivity to each other they will reboot themselves, and it sounds like this is what happened to you. You are sure there has been no changes to your network around the time this happened? Have you checked your switch config is still right (maybe it reset?) Maybe the switches have bugged out and need a reboot? check the logs on them for errors. On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 18:13, Herve Ballans wrote: > Hi again, (sorry for the spam!). > > I just found logs just before the crash of one of the nodes (time of > crash : 18:36:36). It could be more useful than logs sent > previously...(I deleted here normal events) > > First, several messages like that (first one at 11:00 am): > > May 6 18:33:25 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Token has not > been received in 2212 ms > May 6 18:33:26 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A processor > failed, forming new configuration. > > Then: > > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [MAIN ] Completed > service synchronization, ready to provide service. > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pvesr[3342642]: error with cfs lock > 'file-replication_cfg': got lock request timeout > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Main process > exited, code=exited, status=17/n/a > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Failed with > result 'exit-code'. > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: Failed to start Proxmox VE > replication runner. > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: > cpg_send_message retry 30 > May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: > cpg_send_message retried 30 times > > Then again a series of processor failed messages (in totally 147 before > the crash): > > May 6 18:35:03 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Token has not > been received in 2212 ms > May 6 18:35:04 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A processor > failed, forming new configuration. > > Then: > > May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] notice: start cluster > connection > May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_join failed: 14 > May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: can't initialize > service > May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-lrm[5528]: lost lock > 'ha_agent_inf-proxmox7_lock - cfs lock update failed - Device or > resource busy > May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: status change slave => > wait_for_quorum > May 6 18:35:41 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A new membership > (1.e60) was formed. Members joined: 1 3 4 5 > > Then: > > May 6 18:35:41 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: node has quorum > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: > cpg_send_message retried 1 times > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received > sync request (epoch 1/2592/0031) > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received > sync request (epoch 1/2592/0032) > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_send_message > failed: 9 > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_send_message > failed: 9 > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received all > states > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: all data is > up to date > May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: > dfsm_deliver_queue: queue length 144 > > Then: > > May 6 18:35:57 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A new membership > (1.e64) was formed. Members left: 3 4 > May 6 18:35:57 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Failed to > receive the leave message. failed: 3 4 > > And finally crash after this last logs: > > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: status change > wait_for_quorum => slave > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Main process > exited, code=exited, status=17/n/a > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Failed with > result 'exit-code'. > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: Failed to start Proxmox VE > replication runner. > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: loop take too long (51 > seconds) > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: watchdog-mux.service: Succeeded. > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 kernel: [1292969.953131] watchdog: > watchdog0: watchdog did not stop! > May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pvestatd[2894]: status update time (5.201 > seconds) > ^@^@^@^@^@^@ > > following by a binary part... > > Thank you again, > Hervé > > On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: > >>> Hi Hervé, > >>> > >>> This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this > >>> cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? > >>> > >>> Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Eneko > >>> > >>> El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: > Hi everybody, > > I would like to
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi again, (sorry for the spam!). I just found logs just before the crash of one of the nodes (time of crash : 18:36:36). It could be more useful than logs sent previously...(I deleted here normal events) First, several messages like that (first one at 11:00 am): May 6 18:33:25 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Token has not been received in 2212 ms May 6 18:33:26 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A processor failed, forming new configuration. Then: May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [MAIN ] Completed service synchronization, ready to provide service. May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pvesr[3342642]: error with cfs lock 'file-replication_cfg': got lock request timeout May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=17/n/a May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: Failed to start Proxmox VE replication runner. May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: cpg_send_message retry 30 May 6 18:34:14 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: cpg_send_message retried 30 times Then again a series of processor failed messages (in totally 147 before the crash): May 6 18:35:03 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Token has not been received in 2212 ms May 6 18:35:04 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A processor failed, forming new configuration. Then: May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] notice: start cluster connection May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_join failed: 14 May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: can't initialize service May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-lrm[5528]: lost lock 'ha_agent_inf-proxmox7_lock - cfs lock update failed - Device or resource busy May 6 18:35:40 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: status change slave => wait_for_quorum May 6 18:35:41 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A new membership (1.e60) was formed. Members joined: 1 3 4 5 Then: May 6 18:35:41 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: node has quorum May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: cpg_send_message retried 1 times May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received sync request (epoch 1/2592/0031) May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received sync request (epoch 1/2592/0032) May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_send_message failed: 9 May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [dcdb] crit: cpg_send_message failed: 9 May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: received all states May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: all data is up to date May 6 18:35:42 inf-proxmox7 pmxcfs[2602]: [status] notice: dfsm_deliver_queue: queue length 144 Then: May 6 18:35:57 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] A new membership (1.e64) was formed. Members left: 3 4 May 6 18:35:57 inf-proxmox7 corosync[2648]: [TOTEM ] Failed to receive the leave message. failed: 3 4 And finally crash after this last logs: May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: status change wait_for_quorum => slave May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=17/n/a May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: pvesr.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: Failed to start Proxmox VE replication runner. May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pve-ha-crm[5421]: loop take too long (51 seconds) May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 systemd[1]: watchdog-mux.service: Succeeded. May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 kernel: [1292969.953131] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop! May 6 18:36:36 inf-proxmox7 pvestatd[2894]: status update time (5.201 seconds) ^@^@^@^@^@^@ following by a binary part... Thank you again, Hervé On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) !
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Eneko, Thanks for your answer. I was also thinking at first a network issue but physical network equipments don't seem to be showing any specific problems...Here are more details on the cluster: 2x10Gb + 2x1Gb interface: * a 10Gb interface for ceph cluster * a 10Gb interface for main network cluster * the other 2 1Gb interfaces are used for two other VLAN for the VMs On 11/05/2020 10:39, Eneko Lacunza wrote: Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi Hervé, This seems a network issue. What is the network setup in this cluster? What logs in syslog about corosync and pve-cluster? Don't enable HA until you have a stable cluster quorum. Cheers Eneko El 11/5/20 a las 10:35, Herve Ballans escribió: Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user -- Zuzendari Teknikoa / Director Técnico Binovo IT Human Project, S.L. Telf. 943569206 Astigarragako bidea 2, 2º izq. oficina 11; 20180 Oiartzun (Gipuzkoa) www.binovo.es ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
Re: [PVE-User] critical HA problem on a PVE6 cluster
Hi everybody, I would like to take the opportunity at the beginning of this new week to ask my issue again. Has anyone had any idea why a such problem occurred, or is this problem really something new ? Thanks again, Hervé On 07/05/2020 18:28, Herve Ballans wrote: Hi all, *Cluster info:* * 5 nodes (version PVE 6.1-3 at the time the problem occured) * Ceph rbd storage (Nautilus) * In production since many years with no major issues * No specific network problems at the time the problem occured * Nodes are on the same date (configured with the same ntp server) *Symptoms:* Suddenly, last night (around 7 PM), all nodes of our cluster seems to have rebooted in the same time with no apparent reasons (I mean, we weren't doing antything on it) ! During the reboot, services "Corosync Cluster Engine" and "Proxmox VE replication runer" failed. After node rebooted, we are obliged to start those services manually. Once rebooted with all pve services, some nodes were in HA lrm status : old timestamp - dead? while others were in active status or in wait_for_agent_lock status ?... Nodes switch states regularly...and it loops back and forth as long as we don't change the configuration... In the same time, pve-ha-crm service got unexpected error, as for example : "Configuration file 'nodes/inf-proxmox6/qemu-server/501.conf' does not exist" even though the file exists but on an another node ! Such message is probably a consequence of the fencing between nodes due to the change of status... *What we have tried until now to stabilize the situation:* After several investigations and several operations that have failed to solve anything (in particular a complete upgrade to the latest PVE version 6.1-11), we finally removed the HA configuration of all the VM. Since, the state seems to be stabilized although, obviously, it is not nominal ! Now, all the nodes are in HA lrm status : idle and sometimes switch to old timestamp - dead? state, then come back to idle state. None of them are in "active" state. Obviously, quorum status is "no quorum" It will be noted that, as soon as we try to re-activate the HA status on the VMs, problem occurs again (nodes reboot!) :( *Question:* Have you ever experienced such a problem or do you know a way to restore a correct HA configuration in this case ? I point out that nodes are currently on version PVE 6.1-11. I can put some specific logs if useful. Thanks in advance for your help, Hervé ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user ___ pve-user mailing list pve-user@pve.proxmox.com https://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
