Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Fox wrote: > I'm not "spamming admins", I am leaving a warning posted in here to inform > any potential new editor what kind of cotton plantation he made the mistake > to subscribe to. And potential new editors don't read this list. So you're

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
I'm not "spamming admins", I am leaving a warning posted in here to inform any potential new editor what kind of cotton plantation he made the mistake to subscribe to. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Fox wrote: > I don't know wtf you're talking about. I myself run several github wikis > where any regged githuber can write whatever he wants and I never saw a > single spam post. Not one. Your argument is as fake as all the Lemburg > baloney.

[pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
I don't know wtf you're talking about. I myself run several github wikis where any regged githuber can write whatever he wants and I never saw a single spam post. Not one. Your argument is as fake as all the Lemburg baloney. Also what do you mean with "advertising" ? You mean, you want to

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Alex Walters
Can you please stop flooding the list? The spam policy isn't going to change. Yes it sucks that we have to go through this, but we don't have the manpower to handle the spam if we only had automated logins. There are a lot of project wikis that are like this, including postgres and *every

[pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
For a wiki of the size and reach of the pywiki to attract only ~ 20 new Editors in all of 2017 is an abysmal failure. The people responsible for this disaster are the wiki admins of course (Lemburg et. al.), who run the place as if they were bosses of it and they owned the wiki like a cotton

[pydotorg-www] take his word for it?

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 06.10.2016 08:42, Chris Angelico wrote: Copyeditors are _always_ welcome. Thank you for offering to contribute! ChrisA Should we take his word for it? It may be true or not! ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org

[pydotorg-www] ✨✨ for everyone seeking a COOL wiki with no reg fuss like this one ✨✨ practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python link reposted since the "ml" censored it ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

[pydotorg-www] key point - lest I forget

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 01:04, Mats Wichmann wrote: - ranting at and offending the maintainers usually has an effect... just consider your own reaction if the roles were reversed. what the disingenuous admins around here fail to acknowledge, of course, is the fact that due to the broken registration

[pydotorg-www] let's be honest: the py wiki is a *** disgrace

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
poor quality content, next to no redactions worth speaking of, tons of dead links and an iron-fist rejection approach against all new users who must first lick some boot or do whatever. Ask the Arch-Linux wiki people whether they want to adopt this "most successful" (quoting rejection troll

[pydotorg-www] total restricion policy since 2013 uninterrupted

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 00:04, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: If so, what do plan to mitigate this dire situation ? We have no plans changing the policy. Of all strategies we've tried, this is by far the most successful one. afaik you stick that total restricion policy since 2013 uninterrupted or longer.

[pydotorg-www] the no bs wiki: practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python ✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨ A real wiki. Not a "wiki, so-called", like you find them littered all around planet py. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 01:12, Steve Holden wrote: Just, wow. S Steve Holden see? I am such a polite guy. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Fox > wrote: On 27.06.2017 00 :51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On

Re: [pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 01:13, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Fox wrote: On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of

[pydotorg-www] ✨✨ for everyone seeking a COOL wiki with no reg fuss like this one ✨✨

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
Let's hope that there will be none of the "maintenance" over there, of the type we had to witness in the py-wiki.:-( ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

Re: [pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Fox wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: > >> I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. >> Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of >> sentience to merit permission to edit.

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

2017-06-26 Thread Steve Holden
Just, wow. S Steve Holden On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Fox wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: > >> > I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. > > How restrictive is your policy and

[pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 00:51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: >> I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ?

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

2017-06-26 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 06/26/2017 04:51 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: >> I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ?

[pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of sentience to merit permission to edit. Thank you for taking enough interest to want to help. How good is your

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ? If so, what do plan to mitigate this dire situation ? We have no plans changing the policy. Of

[pydotorg-www] ✨✨ for everyone seeking a COOL wiki with no reg fuss like this one ✨✨

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
no reg, no nothing, just go ahead with productive stuff: https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python ✨✨ python - a piece of cake ✨✨ add source code like: {{{ print ("oh yes") }}} ___ pydotorg-www mailing list

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, well the article is a disgrace, with 2 dead links. In what way do you intend to improve it ? why do you not autoremove all dead links ? Moin doesn't have

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 27.06.2017 00:06, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 26.06.2017 09:00, firefox wrote: account name: FirFoxxx intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, well the article is a disgrace, with 2 dead links. why do

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

2017-06-26 Thread Steve Holden
AS a no-more-then-tangential reply I will point out in the defence of anyone who might be held responsible for not "plan[ning] to mitigate this dire situation," that the site content is maintained entirely by volunteers. It's possible that our current approach won't scale, but it's equally likely

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

2017-06-26 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 26.06.2017 09:00, firefox wrote: > account name: FirFoxxx > > intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ http://www.malemburg.com/

[pydotorg-www] ✨✨ Unable to use my account to edit the wiki ✨✨

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 25.05.2017 18:50, Paul Hildebrandt wrote: I would like to put my hat in the ring for the PSF board but am unable to make changes to the wiki. Can my account: paul_hildebra...@yahoo.com have its password reset? I've tried the password reset several

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

2017-06-26 Thread Fox
On 11.06.2017 13:43, Chris Angelico wrote: Our anti-robot protection is no secret. Before anyone can edit, he or she has to get explicit permission from an admin. :) to most bona fide users this is actually very much a :-( All you have to do is set pages to be read-only by default, and

[pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

2017-06-26 Thread firefox
hello ChrisA, and Marc-Andre, FirFoxxx here. "Editing pages Since spamming and vandalism on this wiki has reached a level that is starting to require daily intervention, new users are no longer allowed to edit pages. If you want to edit a page and have just signed up, or you find that you

[pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

2017-06-26 Thread firefox
hello ChrisA, FirFoxxx here. Editing pages Since spamming and vandalism on this wiki has reached a level that is starting to require daily intervention, new users are no longer allowed to edit pages. If you want to edit a page and have just signed up, or you find that you can no longer edit