Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Raoul Snyman
I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good understanding of MVC frameworks (like RoR and CakePHP). Having actually attempted to write my own MVC framework in PHP (and then abandoning it due to limitations

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried out the mod_wsgi module for *Nginx*? Yeah, I know, weird: http://wiki.codemongers.com/NginxNgxWSGIModule I personally know the author and I definitely recommend it. He's focused and competent.

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Christoph Haas
On Freitag, 23. Mai 2008, Mike Orr wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Raoul Snyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good understanding of MVC frameworks (like

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally know the author and I definitely recommend it. He's focused and competent. Oh, cool! He also gave a talk about nginx's mod_wsgi at the PyCon Italy

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 23. Mai 2008, Mike Orr wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Raoul Snyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The documentation is very sparse, and it

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Lawrence Oluyede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried out the mod_wsgi module for *Nginx*? Yeah, I know, weird: http://wiki.codemongers.com/NginxNgxWSGIModule I

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread wongobongo
On May 23, 1:38 am, Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You rang? :) I had once upon a time started an introcution at http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Concepts+of+Pylons Then Ben started calling for more documentation for the 0.9.7 documentation and introced

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:20:18PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 11:55 -0400, Ross Vandegrift wrote: 1) Users of other HTTP servers are always fiddling with them, restarting after crashes. This may be due to misuse, non-optimal config - I'm not sure. But I've never had

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:46:39AM +0200, Raoul Snyman wrote: I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good understanding of MVC frameworks (like RoR and CakePHP). Actually, I've found that it's a case

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Cliff Wells
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 10:05 -0400, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I don't think that's such a ridiciulous claim! Consider the application server that hosts the apps that I write for my company's internal use. It hosts four or six Pylons applications and one Rails app. One of these apps handles

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread lasizoillo
Hi 2008/5/22 Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's my two cents: Has anyone tried out the mod_wsgi module for *Nginx*? Yeah, I know, weird: http://wiki.codemongers.com/NginxNgxWSGIModule But you need run cooperative wsgi app :-( Twisted's people handle this issue running the

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Raoul Snyman
I never said the community wasn't doing anything. I understand perfectly if somebody feels they don't know a subject well enough to write about it; I do that myself. Or if they just don't have an inclination to, that's fine too. And f somebody thinks the documentation is spotty and has

SQLAlchemy Doc

2008-05-23 Thread ramius828
The current 'Using SQLAlchemy with Pylons' doc requires SQLAlchemy version 0.4.3. Is there an older doc around with instructions that would work with SQLAlchemy 0.3.11? Are prior doc versions kept some place? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Cliff Wells
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 11:06 +0200, Raoul Snyman wrote: But this is the exact response I was talking about. Instead of being gracious about something, some developers become defensive and then attack back. And Mike, this is not a personal attack on you, this is a trend I have seen in a

Genshi template caching

2008-05-23 Thread Geoff
Quick question: are genshi templates cached at all? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Raoul Snyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want me to be obligated to you, I'll send you my hourly rates. Otherwise, we're all volunteers. Mike, please don't be so defensive. I was not accusing you of anything, and I was not telling you to be obligated to

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Orr
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:39 AM, lasizoillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in doing asynchronous programming in Python but without the painful callback style approach used by Twisted, check out http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Eventlet. It's based on the same tricks used by

Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-23 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On May 23, 3:48 pm, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is quite interesting.  I've been looking for a way to build a site scraper (something analogous to an aggregator but more site-specific) that could eventually become asynchronous, and this looks a lot easier than Twisted.  

Sharing caches and sessions between multiple Pylons instances

2008-05-23 Thread L.C. Rees
In a scenario where you're running multiple Pylons instances of the same Pylons application behind a load balancer, what techniques can you use to share Beaker sessions and caches between the instances so the data they're storing can be accessed when needed irrespective of which instance is

Re: Sharing caches and sessions between multiple Pylons instances

2008-05-23 Thread Philip Jenvey
On May 23, 2008, at 2:06 PM, L.C. Rees wrote: In a scenario where you're running multiple Pylons instances of the same Pylons application behind a load balancer, what techniques can you use to share Beaker sessions and caches between the instances so the data they're storing can be

Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?

2008-05-23 Thread Noah Gift
Noah, there's your cue ;) All the information is there, you just have to cat | sort | uniq it ;) Ok, it is a deal then. I should have time on May 31st and that weekend to document at least my version of a tutorial based on that info. I completely agree with Mike Orr, the best writing comes

Last Announcement: Upcoming Pylons/TG2/WSGI Sprint!

2008-05-23 Thread Ben Bangert
One last announcementfor those who may have forgot. :) We have a Pylons/TG2/WSGI Sprint happening May 31st and June 1st, at O'Reilly Media in beautiful Sebastopol, CA. Please add your name here if you plan on attending so we can get an appropriate amount of space allocated: