RE: [PyMOL] Selective Z-clipping

2002-11-25 Thread Schubert, Carsten
Hi Kelley,

I just worked out a procedure to do this with VMD/Raster3D (oops, this is
the PyMol list ...). Anyhow, it boils down to that you can apply selective
bounding or clipping planes in Raster3D. In the case of a clipped surface
you want to use a bounding plane, which slices through an object and
produces a sealed cut (bounding plane) or really play with the lights to get
rid of all the interior surfaces exposed by a non-sealing cut with a
clipping plane. I played around a little bit with Povray to achieve the same
effect. I figured out to use an intersection with CGOs but somehow I could
not get it to work with a surface definition. May be somebody else knows how
to do this. I'd be interested in it to.

Here is what I did. Split your scene into their components and write out the
raster3d input files. Remove all headers from the r3d files and save one
header into a control script (master.r3d) If you use vmd (oops again...) you
have to get rid of the object 17 in the surface definition, otherwise you
will not be able change colors, transparency etc. Use remove_17.pl for this.
The animate_bounding.pl script allows you to move the bounding plane in a
given range to find the right orientation. The only way to do this is by
trial and error. A good starting point is a plane defined by the normal
vector 0,0,1 (x,y plane at origin of scene). 

good luck.


Carsten



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[PyMOL] settings of ribbons and cartoons

2002-11-25 Thread Kristl Adams
Where can I find a list of what I can set with regard to ribbons and
cartoons.  Currently the cartoons command just shows a thin round tube and
the ribbons command shows just a thin line.

I'd ideally like to have cartoonishly round ribbons with some of the
residues on them drawn in sticks.  I'm a new pymole user and am finding it
frustrating  to work with because it isn't that well documented ... Am I
just not looking in the correct places for documentation?  I have the pdf
at http://pymol.scourceforge.net/userman.pdf, but it isn't specific
enough.

Please help the hopelessly confussed.
Kristl




Re: [PyMOL] settings of ribbons and cartoons

2002-11-25 Thread Kadmon
Have you set your sheet and helix part in your pdb? For my personal case,
things you experienced happened when this part wasn't built.
I guess that PyMOL cannot find the secondary structures as softwares like
Rasmol can.
Try to determine your secondary structures with DSSP for example and to
paste it in your pdb file before loading it in PyMOL, your cartoonish
rendering should be great :)

Cheers

Virgile ADAM





Re: [PyMOL] settings of ribbons and cartoons

2002-11-25 Thread Jules Jacobsen
Hi Kristl

The problem is that the secondary structure of your protein hasn't been
defined in the PDB file. This is why the cartoon looks ike a tube. What
you need to do is type util.ss into the command line and this will
calculate some sort of secondary structure for you although it's not
that accurate. Alternatively click on the little diamond next to your
protein name in the in the OpenGL window and then click on 'assign ss'.

As for your best bet on finding out how to do things this is probably it.

Jules

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Kristl Adams wrote:


 Where can I find a list of what I can set with regard to ribbons and
 cartoons.  Currently the cartoons command just shows a thin round tube and
 the ribbons command shows just a thin line.

 I'd ideally like to have cartoonishly round ribbons with some of the
 residues on them drawn in sticks.  I'm a new pymole user and am finding it
 frustrating  to work with because it isn't that well documented ... Am I
 just not looking in the correct places for documentation?  I have the pdf
 at http://pymol.scourceforge.net/userman.pdf, but it isn't specific
 enough.

 Please help the hopelessly confussed.
 Kristl



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[PyMOL] selecting specific hetatm's

2002-11-25 Thread chuitema
Hello, while this is a simple question, I can't seem to find the answer
anywhere.

How do I select a specific hetatm:
The pdb file says:
HETBCL  C   1  51

HETBCL  C   2  66

HETBCL  C   3  66

HETBCL  C   4  66

HETBPH  C   5  51

HETBPH  C   6  65

HETFE2  C   7   1

HETU10  C   8  38

HETU10  C   9  44

HETLDA  C  10  16

HETLDA  C  11  16

HETLDA  C  12  16

HETLDA  C  13  16

HETBCL  D   1  51

HETBCL  D   2  66

HETBCL  D   3  66

HETBCL  D   4  66

HETBPH  D   5  52

HETBPH  D   6  65

HETFE2  D   7   1

HETU10  D   8  32

HETU10  D   9  18 

And I want to select these individually.
I can show all by saying show sticks, (het).
I realize this is partially my lack of understanding of how a pdb file is
put together, if there is a tutorial on that that someone could refer me to
that would be great as well.

Thanks,
Carly  





[PyMOL] Re: PyMOL-users digest, Vol 1 #218 - 1 msg

2002-11-25 Thread Kelley Moremen
Hi Carsten,

I appreciate your reply and I would assume that it makes impressive
graphics, but it sounds WAY beyond my meager abilities (I am struggling with
the Mac OS X version of Pymol after all and haven't ventured into the realm
of raster3D yet).  I assume that since there has been a resounding lack of
response within the Pymol masses that it either can't be done or hasn't been
done. Just in case somebody missed the prior posting I would like to be able
to perform a selective Z-clipping in order to cross-section an active site
pocket with a bound ligand. The challenge comes in trying to Z-clip the
protein structure (shown as a surface display) while retaining the entire
ligand (no Z-clip on the ligand). Prior attempts have either Z-clipped
everything (create protein as an object, create ligand as an object, then
Z-clip) or Z-clipped nothing (create protein as an object, execute the
Z-clip, then create ligand as an object and display it).  Somehow the
creation of the ligand as an object and displaying it over-rides the prior
Z-clip and both objects are displayed in their entirety.

Any suggestion within the Pymol world?

Thanks,

Kelley



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 From: Schubert, Carsten carsten.schub...@3dp.com
 To: 'Kelley Moremen' more...@arches.uga.edu,
  pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Selective Z-clipping
 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:07:13 -0500
 
 Hi Kelley,
 
 I just worked out a procedure to do this with VMD/Raster3D (oops, this is
 the PyMol list ...). Anyhow, it boils down to that you can apply selective
 bounding or clipping planes in Raster3D. In the case of a clipped surface
 you want to use a bounding plane, which slices through an object and
 produces a sealed cut (bounding plane) or really play with the lights to get
 rid of all the interior surfaces exposed by a non-sealing cut with a
 clipping plane. I played around a little bit with Povray to achieve the same
 effect. I figured out to use an intersection with CGOs but somehow I could
 not get it to work with a surface definition. May be somebody else knows how
 to do this. I'd be interested in it to.
 
 Here is what I did. Split your scene into their components and write out the
 raster3d input files. Remove all headers from the r3d files and save one
 header into a control script (master.r3d) If you use vmd (oops again...) you
 have to get rid of the object 17 in the surface definition, otherwise you
 will not be able change colors, transparency etc. Use remove_17.pl for this.
 The animate_bounding.pl script allows you to move the bounding plane in a
 given range to find the right orientation. The only way to do this is by
 trial and error. A good starting point is a plane defined by the normal
 vector 0,0,1 (x,y plane at origin of scene).
 
 good luck.
 
 
 Carsten


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