Re: [PyMOL] Will Pymol participate in Google Summer of Code 2008?

2008-03-09 Thread Anders Norgaard
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:04 PM, DeLano Scientific del...@delsci.info wrote:
 Anders,

  Yes, we do have a long list of suggestions for PyMOL improvements, but many
  of them require a detailed understanding of PyMOL's fragile C-language
  internals, the study and modification of which is too much for Summer of
  Code.  Also, in addition to the ActiveX effort just announced, some of the
  PyMOL-specific ideas have already been contracted and/or implemented.

  My view is that the obvious low-hanging fruit for Open-Source PyMOL is
  integration with other open-source code.  Since that mostly involves work at
  the Python level, such projects are well within the reach of students,
  especially if they have experience with both packages.

  So from where I sit, the obvious open-source candidates are:

Ok. I made a Wiki-page for this

http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Gsoc2008

And added a couple of more ideas.

Best regards,
Anders





  APBS (electrostatics -- improve the current plugin)
  RDKit (cheminformatics, depiction, UFF cleanup, etc.)
  mengine (MMFF small molecule cleanup)
  mpeg_encode (MPEG movie production on Linux, etc.)
  GIMP (image manipulation)
  Blender (general-purpose 3D modeling  animation)
  Jmol (publishing visualizations inside of web pages)
  Firefox (ditto)
  MMTK (molecular mechanics -- Python/flexible)
  GROMACS (molecular mechanics -- C/fast)
  OpenOffice (escape from the microsoft hegemony)

  (NOTE: work is already underway for mpeg_encode and mengine...)

  Are there other key open-source packages we might specifically target for
  integration with PyMOL, either through SOC or beyond?

  Although there are many niche tools, from a prioritization standpoint,
  efforts should focus on integrations that will impact the largest potential
  user base.  So what hypothetical integrations would be useful to virtually
  all medicinal chemists, all structural biologists, all movie-makers, all
  paper-writers, and so on?

  Cheers,
  Warren

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   -Original Message-
   From: Anders Norgaard [mailto:anders.norga...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:10 PM
   To: DeLano Scientific
   Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Will Pymol participate in Google Summer
   of Code 2008?
  
   On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM, DeLano Scientific
   del...@delsci.info wrote:
Anders,
   
 No plans at present, but hey, it is still one whole week before a
week  before the deadline!
  
   :o)
  
Anyone out there with sufficient bandwidth to mentor?
 Hmm... Perhaps a nucleating effort on Jmol / PyMOL interporability
would  make a good SOC project?
  
   Well, there is also a whole list of stuff in your PyMOL By
   Popular Demand Survey (Jan 2008) mail, perhaps some of
   these could be bundled into a project?
  
   - An ActiveX Control
   - 2D structure display
   - More documentation, screencasts,  tutorials.
   - Browser plugins
   - Direct MPEG movie export
   - Direct WinAVI movie export
   - Structure cleanup  energy minimization
   - Objects/states split over multiple windows (side by side views)
   - Multi-line text annotations in scenes
   - APBS bundled witih PyMOL
   - Per-object Z clip
   - native Windows user interface in a single window
   - Undo
   - Improved molecular builder
   - Better RigiMOL integration
   - MOPAC integration
   - Sequence alignment editing
   - 3D PDF export
   - Cleaned up matrix  transformation interface
   - Blender integration
   - Nucleic acid building
   - Calculate surface areas and volumes
   - Secondary structure display in sequence viewer
   - Scene buttons / sorter
   - Movie slider ala Cinema4D/Maya/3DSMax
   - Drag  drop programming of object motions
  
   or
  
   Pymol MMTK integration?
  
  
   Best,
   Anders
  
  
  
  
   
 Cheers,
 Warren
   
   
   
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  From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net
  [mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On
   Behalf   Of
Anders Norgaard   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:53 AM   To:
pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net   Subject: [PyMOL] Will Pymol
participate in Google Summer of Code 2008?
 
  Hi,
 
 
  I guess that it is one of the great ways to catch young new  
contributors.
 
  http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
 
 
  Best,
  Anders
 
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Re: [PyMOL] Will Pymol participate in Google Summer of Code 2008?

2008-03-09 Thread Michael Lerner
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:04 PM, DeLano Scientific del...@delsci.info wrote:
  So from where I sit, the obvious open-source candidates are:

  APBS (electrostatics -- improve the current plugin)

Please let me know if anyone decides to do this. I have an
(unreleased) improved version, and several ideas for how to improve it
further. I'd be glad to help out.

-michael


  RDKit (cheminformatics, depiction, UFF cleanup, etc.)
  mengine (MMFF small molecule cleanup)
  mpeg_encode (MPEG movie production on Linux, etc.)
  GIMP (image manipulation)
  Blender (general-purpose 3D modeling  animation)
  Jmol (publishing visualizations inside of web pages)
  Firefox (ditto)
  MMTK (molecular mechanics -- Python/flexible)
  GROMACS (molecular mechanics -- C/fast)
  OpenOffice (escape from the microsoft hegemony)

  (NOTE: work is already underway for mpeg_encode and mengine...)

  Are there other key open-source packages we might specifically target for
  integration with PyMOL, either through SOC or beyond?

  Although there are many niche tools, from a prioritization standpoint,
  efforts should focus on integrations that will impact the largest potential
  user base.  So what hypothetical integrations would be useful to virtually
  all medicinal chemists, all structural biologists, all movie-makers, all
  paper-writers, and so on?

  Cheers,
  Warren

  --
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  Subscriber Support Services
  mailto:del...@delsci.info




   -Original Message-
   From: Anders Norgaard [mailto:anders.norga...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:10 PM
   To: DeLano Scientific
   Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Will Pymol participate in Google Summer
   of Code 2008?
  
   On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM, DeLano Scientific
   del...@delsci.info wrote:
Anders,
   
 No plans at present, but hey, it is still one whole week before a
week  before the deadline!
  
   :o)
  
Anyone out there with sufficient bandwidth to mentor?
 Hmm... Perhaps a nucleating effort on Jmol / PyMOL interporability
would  make a good SOC project?
  
   Well, there is also a whole list of stuff in your PyMOL By
   Popular Demand Survey (Jan 2008) mail, perhaps some of
   these could be bundled into a project?
  
   - An ActiveX Control
   - 2D structure display
   - More documentation, screencasts,  tutorials.
   - Browser plugins
   - Direct MPEG movie export
   - Direct WinAVI movie export
   - Structure cleanup  energy minimization
   - Objects/states split over multiple windows (side by side views)
   - Multi-line text annotations in scenes
   - APBS bundled witih PyMOL
   - Per-object Z clip
   - native Windows user interface in a single window
   - Undo
   - Improved molecular builder
   - Better RigiMOL integration
   - MOPAC integration
   - Sequence alignment editing
   - 3D PDF export
   - Cleaned up matrix  transformation interface
   - Blender integration
   - Nucleic acid building
   - Calculate surface areas and volumes
   - Secondary structure display in sequence viewer
   - Scene buttons / sorter
   - Movie slider ala Cinema4D/Maya/3DSMax
   - Drag  drop programming of object motions
  
   or
  
   Pymol MMTK integration?
  
  
   Best,
   Anders
  
  
  
  
   
 Cheers,
 Warren
   
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net
  [mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On
   Behalf   Of
Anders Norgaard   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:53 AM   To:
pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net   Subject: [PyMOL] Will Pymol
participate in Google Summer of Code 2008?
 
  Hi,
 
 
  I guess that it is one of the great ways to catch young new  
contributors.
 
  http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
 
 
  Best,
  Anders
 
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