Folks,
Please endeavor to be respectful, kind, and patient with one another.
Toxic interactions on the mailing list hurt all of us, so please avoid
such posts altogether or keep them private.
Unfortunately, is appears that we can no longer rely on either
SourceForge or Google to provide a PyMOL mailing list search capacity,
so we will be looking at what else we can do instead to provide
convenient access to the accumulated knowledge contained inside the
pymol-users archives. Restoring this capability should help cut down on
the number of repeat questions.
Cheers,
Warren
-Original Message-
From: Tsjerk Wassenaar [mailto:tsje...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:00 AM
To: Mehmet Cetin; pymol-users
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] solvent accessibility with pymol
Hi Mehmet,
1. I have just become a member today so I don't know who
posted what 2
days ago. and as far as I can see there is no search
function on the archives.
True, that's why I didn't answer 'search the archives', like
I would on other lists.
2. I do search the web before asking. I couldn't find something
satisfying, that's why I asked.
The wiki did have the answer, maybe you searched but you
couldn't find it, or did not know of its existence. In that
case, indicate what you tried in order to find the answer
yourself (like noticing the archives have no search
function). That will make people like me feel to be taken
seriously and not used like some helpdesk. Maybe it is not a
bad idea to read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
3. I am not looking for a substitute for my brain's
function either.
I just asked a simple question. just delete it if you don't
want to answer.
and I suggest you think more carefully before you lecture
people you
don't know.
I gave you an answer, despite not being paid for it. You can
appreciate that and take the other comments for granted,
doing with it what you think is right. You can think badly of
me and hope for somebody more polite to answer, disregarding
what I said, or you can lecture me like you do here and make
me think twice before opening a post of yours and answering
your question.
The fact that you feel insulted by me, suggesting that you
would regard us as a 'substitute ...', is a good sign. It
gives the feeling that you're willing to learn and find
things out for yourself, although in this case you didn't
manage. Reflect that in your posts.
I've seen to many which boiled down to 'please do my homework for me'
or 'make me avoid straining my neurons', and after the years
involved in mailing lists like these mails invoking such
feelings trigger a response like the one I gave or even
worse. Not a personal thing though; I don't even know you.
I hope this settles things a bit.
Cheers,
Tsjerk
Mehmet
--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] solvent accessibility with pymol
To: Mehmet Cetin mmt...@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:43 AM
Mehmet,
Really, two days ago we got this post:
---
Dear all,
Is there any PyMOL command to calculate surface areas?
Many thanks,
Luisa Rodrigues
---
And now you come with this:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Mehmet Cetin
mmt...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi all, I am looking for a way to figure out the solvent
accessibility of a particular region on a protein. could
anyone tell
me if there is a command (or script) in Pymol that I can
use to do it? thanks in advance.
The answer given should be good enough for you.
---
Did you try to search for information yourself first?
Anyways, the pymolwiki.org
is always a good place to go and then you would have found
something
like this:
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Get_Area
I hope this is what you are looking for?
Best regards,
Folmer Fredslund
---
Please do bear in mind that we're not an easy substitute
for your own
brains function! Before posting, search the internet, and
especially
search on the wiki pages. Also, be sure to read the questions and
answers that come by on this list as these may provide you answers
before you know you were looking for them.
Cheers,
Tsjerk
--
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623
--
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623
