Re: [PyMOL] Fast mmCIF loading in latest Open-Source updates

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Förster
Hi Thomas,

I assume components.cif is the same file that I've just downloaded for 
LigPlot+.  Would it be possible that PyMOL automatically finds this 
file, say by reading $compcif or some such variable?

Thanks.


Andreas



On 16/10/2014 10:08, Thomas Holder wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> this is for those who like to use the latest Open-Source PyMOL code from SVN. 
> We replaced the slow python mmCIF reader with a very fast and efficient C++ 
> implementation. Other than being much faster, this implementation provides:
>
> - new connect_mode=4 does bonding with components.cif dictionary
> (components.cif needs to be present in current directory, no automatic 
> downloading)
>
> - read missing residues from _pdbx_unobs_or_zero_occ_residues records and 
> display them grayed out in the sequence viewer
>
> - "fetch 1a00, type=cif" downloads mmcif instead of pdb
>
> We welcome any kind of testing and feedback.
>
> Cheers,
>Thomas
>

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Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

2014-10-16 Thread Markus Heller
Hi Jared,

Thanks for your help.  I have two issues with this script: 

1.  It only works once after I've started pymol; the second time, python.exe 
crashes.
2.  It does create an object with *distances*, not the actual residues.

Your other solution with the single word selectors should work but I'll need to 
refine it ;-)

Cheers
Markus

From: Sampson, Jared [mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:36 AM
To: Markus Heller
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

Hi Markus -  

First, you need to run the python script from the wiki page (save it as, e.g. 
polarpairs.py).  Then, to run pure Python code within a pml file, you'll need 
to enclose those lines in a python block 
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Python) using 'python' and 'python end'.  
For example, to list all the H bonds between chains A and B:

###

run path/to/polarpairs.py

python

# the example from http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Polarpairs
pairs = polarpairs('chain A', 'chain B')
for p in pairs:
    dist = cmd.get_distance('(%s`%s)' % p[0], '(%s`%s)' % p[1])
    print p, 'Distance: %.2f' % (dist)

python end

###

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Jared

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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
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On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Markus Heller  wrote:


Jared,

I'm a newbie to pythom/PyMOL; how do I get this to work in a pml script?  A 
pointer to an example script would be enough .

Thanks
Markus

From: Sampson, Jared [mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Markus Heller
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

Actually, an even better option is Thomas' polarpairs.py script: 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Polarpairs, which considers the H-bond angle 
as well as distance. 

Apologies for the multiple emails, but I hope that is closer to what you're 
looking for.

Cheers,
Jared


On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Sampson, Jared  wrote:


Hi Markus -  

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your request at first. 

What about the "acceptors" and "donors" selectors?  
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Single-word_Selectors

e.g.
select hbond_residues, byres ((acceptors within 3.5 of donors) or (donors 
within 3.5 of acceptors))

Cheers,
Jared

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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.edu/





On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Markus Heller  wrote:


Hi Jared,
 
Thanks for the reply.
 
This is NOT what I'm looking for.  As you stated, distance mode 2 yields the 
*distances* as dashes, but not the actual residues.  I don't want the dashes, 
but I want the residues (i.e. the donors and acceptors) in selectable objects.
 
I hope it's clearer now what I'm after .
 
Cheers
M
 
From: Sampson, Jared [mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 3:33 PM
To: Markus Heller
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds
 
Hi Markus - 
 
Under the GUI "action" menu A > find > polar contacts, you'll find several 
options which will create a new object with all the specified distances as 
dashes.
 
This is also available with `distance` command.  
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Distance
 
Hope that helps.
 
Cheers,
Jared
 
--
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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.edu/





 
On Oct 10, 2014, at 2:45 AM, Markus Heller  wrote:



Hello list,
 
subject says it all.  The 2 options I came across search the www are:
 
http://sourceforge.net/p/pymol/mailman/message/7562444/http://sourceforge.net/p/pymol/mailman/message/7562444/
 
and DistancesRH 
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/DistancesRH)http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/DistancesRH
 
Is this current state-of-the-art, true-and-tried, or is there something more 
powerful hiding out there?
 
Thanks
Markus
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[PyMOL] Fast mmCIF loading in latest Open-Source updates

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Holder
Dear all,

this is for those who like to use the latest Open-Source PyMOL code from SVN. 
We replaced the slow python mmCIF reader with a very fast and efficient C++ 
implementation. Other than being much faster, this implementation provides:

- new connect_mode=4 does bonding with components.cif dictionary
(components.cif needs to be present in current directory, no automatic 
downloading)

- read missing residues from _pdbx_unobs_or_zero_occ_residues records and 
display them grayed out in the sequence viewer

- "fetch 1a00, type=cif" downloads mmcif instead of pdb

We welcome any kind of testing and feedback.

Cheers,
  Thomas

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Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Holder
sure, you are welcome to update the PyMOLWiki page.

Cheers,
  Thomas

On 16 Oct 2014, at 15:57, Markus Heller  wrote:

> Aha, that makes sense now.
> 
> Would it be worth to clarify this in the pymolwiki 
> (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Show)?  That's where I got my version 
> from ...
> 
> Cheers
> Markus
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:44 AM
> To: Markus Heller
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?
> 
> Hi Markus,
> 
>> # hide non-polar hydrogens
>> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))
> 
> 
> This will hide all representations -- including surface -- for non-polar 
> hydrogens. I guess what you rather want is to remove those non-polar 
> hydrogens, so that they will not be included in the surface calculation.
> 
> # remove non-polar hydrogens
> remove (h. and (e. c extend 1))
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Cheers,
>  Thomas
> 
> On 16 Oct 2014, at 13:34, Markus Heller  wrote:
>> Thomas,
>> 
>> If you comment out the h_add line in the pml script below, the surface looks 
>> good.  If it's in there, it's broken for me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Markus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> # load the PDB file
>> fetch 3CIY, async = 0
>> 
>> # add hydrogens
>> h_add
>> 
>> # hide everything but show cartoon
>> hide lines
>> #as cartoon
>> 
>> # show protein surface
>> show surface, all
>> 
>> # deselect all to avoid little pink squares deselect
>> 
>> # hide non-polar hydrogens
>> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))
>> 
>> # finally, raytrace and save a PNG
>> ray
>> png broken_surf.png
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:18 PM
>> To: Markus Heller
>> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?
>> 
>> Hi Markus,
>> 
>> I can't reproduce this. Do you have an example?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:32, Markus Heller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I updated to 1.7.2.3.  I noticed that
>>> 
>>> h_add
>>> 
>>> breaks the surface rendering for me, meaning the surface representation 
>>> shows lots of holes/missing parts (before and after ray).  It doesn't 
>>> matter if h_add is placed before or after the surface is generated.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody else noticed that, or does this occur just for me?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Markus
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Markus Heller, Ph.D.
>>> NMR Scientist
>>> CDRD - The Centre for Drug Research and Development
>>> 2405 Wesbrook Mall, Fourth Floor | Vancouver, BC  V6T 1Z3 | Main: 
>>> (604) 827-1147
>>> Direct: (604) 827-1122 | F: (604) 827-1299 | E: mhel...@cdrd.ca | 
>>> www.cdrd.ca

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Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

2014-10-16 Thread Markus Heller
Aha, that makes sense now.

Would it be worth to clarify this in the pymolwiki 
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Show)?  That's where I got my version from 
...

Cheers
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:44 AM
To: Markus Heller
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

Hi Markus,

> # hide non-polar hydrogens
> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))


This will hide all representations -- including surface -- for non-polar 
hydrogens. I guess what you rather want is to remove those non-polar hydrogens, 
so that they will not be included in the surface calculation.

# remove non-polar hydrogens
remove (h. and (e. c extend 1))

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
  Thomas

On 16 Oct 2014, at 13:34, Markus Heller  wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> If you comment out the h_add line in the pml script below, the surface looks 
> good.  If it's in there, it's broken for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Markus
> 
> 
> 
> # load the PDB file
> fetch 3CIY, async = 0
> 
> # add hydrogens
> h_add
> 
> # hide everything but show cartoon
> hide lines
> #as cartoon
> 
> # show protein surface
> show surface, all
> 
> # deselect all to avoid little pink squares deselect
> 
> # hide non-polar hydrogens
> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))
> 
> # finally, raytrace and save a PNG
> ray
> png broken_surf.png
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: Markus Heller
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?
> 
> Hi Markus,
> 
> I can't reproduce this. Do you have an example?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Thomas
> 
> On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:32, Markus Heller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I updated to 1.7.2.3.  I noticed that
>> 
>> h_add
>> 
>> breaks the surface rendering for me, meaning the surface representation 
>> shows lots of holes/missing parts (before and after ray).  It doesn't matter 
>> if h_add is placed before or after the surface is generated.
>> 
>> Has anybody else noticed that, or does this occur just for me?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Markus
>> 
>> --
>> Markus Heller, Ph.D.
>> NMR Scientist
>> CDRD - The Centre for Drug Research and Development
>> 2405 Wesbrook Mall, Fourth Floor | Vancouver, BC  V6T 1Z3 | Main: 
>> (604) 827-1147
>> Direct: (604) 827-1122 | F: (604) 827-1299 | E: mhel...@cdrd.ca | 
>> www.cdrd.ca

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Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi Markus,

> # hide non-polar hydrogens
> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))


This will hide all representations -- including surface -- for non-polar 
hydrogens. I guess what you rather want is to remove those non-polar hydrogens, 
so that they will not be included in the surface calculation.

# remove non-polar hydrogens
remove (h. and (e. c extend 1))

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
  Thomas

On 16 Oct 2014, at 13:34, Markus Heller  wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> If you comment out the h_add line in the pml script below, the surface looks 
> good.  If it's in there, it's broken for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Markus
> 
> 
> 
> # load the PDB file
> fetch 3CIY, async = 0
> 
> # add hydrogens
> h_add 
> 
> # hide everything but show cartoon
> hide lines
> #as cartoon
> 
> # show protein surface
> show surface, all
> 
> # deselect all to avoid little pink squares
> deselect
> 
> # hide non-polar hydrogens
> hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))
> 
> # finally, raytrace and save a PNG
> ray 
> png broken_surf.png
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: Markus Heller
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?
> 
> Hi Markus,
> 
> I can't reproduce this. Do you have an example?
> 
> Thanks, 
>  Thomas
> 
> On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:32, Markus Heller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> I updated to 1.7.2.3.  I noticed that 
>> 
>> h_add
>> 
>> breaks the surface rendering for me, meaning the surface representation 
>> shows lots of holes/missing parts (before and after ray).  It doesn't matter 
>> if h_add is placed before or after the surface is generated.
>> 
>> Has anybody else noticed that, or does this occur just for me?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Markus
>> 
>> -- 
>> Markus Heller, Ph.D.
>> NMR Scientist
>> CDRD - The Centre for Drug Research and Development
>> 2405 Wesbrook Mall, Fourth Floor | Vancouver, BC  V6T 1Z3 | Main: (604) 
>> 827-1147
>> Direct: (604) 827-1122 | F: (604) 827-1299 | E: mhel...@cdrd.ca | www.cdrd.ca

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Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

2014-10-16 Thread Markus Heller
Thomas,

If you comment out the h_add line in the pml script below, the surface looks 
good.  If it's in there, it's broken for me.

Cheers
Markus



# load the PDB file
fetch 3CIY, async = 0

# add hydrogens
h_add 

# hide everything but show cartoon
hide lines
#as cartoon

# show protein surface
show surface, all

# deselect all to avoid little pink squares
deselect

# hide non-polar hydrogens
hide (h. and (e. c extend 1))

# finally, raytrace and save a PNG
ray 
png broken_surf.png



-Original Message-
From: Thomas Holder [mailto:thomas.hol...@schrodinger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:18 PM
To: Markus Heller
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] h_add breaks surface?

Hi Markus,

I can't reproduce this. Do you have an example?

Thanks, 
  Thomas

On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:32, Markus Heller  wrote:

> Hi all, 
> 
> I updated to 1.7.2.3.  I noticed that 
> 
> h_add
> 
> breaks the surface rendering for me, meaning the surface representation shows 
> lots of holes/missing parts (before and after ray).  It doesn't matter if 
> h_add is placed before or after the surface is generated.
> 
> Has anybody else noticed that, or does this occur just for me?
> 
> Thanks
> Markus
> 
> -- 
> Markus Heller, Ph.D.
> NMR Scientist
> CDRD - The Centre for Drug Research and Development
> 2405 Wesbrook Mall, Fourth Floor | Vancouver, BC  V6T 1Z3 | Main: (604) 
> 827-1147
> Direct: (604) 827-1122 | F: (604) 827-1299 | E: mhel...@cdrd.ca | www.cdrd.ca

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Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

2014-10-16 Thread Sampson, Jared
Hi Markus -

First, you need to run the python script from the wiki page (save it as, e.g. 
polarpairs.py).  Then, to run pure Python code within a pml file, you’ll need 
to enclose those lines in a python block 
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Python) using ‘python’ and ‘python end’.  
For example, to list all the H bonds between chains A and B:

###

run path/to/polarpairs.py

python

# the example from http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Polarpairs
pairs = polarpairs('chain A', 'chain B')
for p in pairs:
dist = cmd.get_distance('(%s`%s)' % p[0], '(%s`%s)' % p[1])
print p, 'Distance: %.2f' % (dist)

python end

###

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Jared

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On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Markus Heller 
mailto:mhel...@cdrd.ca>> wrote:

Jared,

I'm a newbie to pythom/PyMOL; how do I get this to work in a pml script?  A 
pointer to an example script would be enough .

Thanks
Markus

From: Sampson, Jared [mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Markus Heller
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

Actually, an even better option is Thomas' polarpairs.py script: 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Polarpairs, which considers the H-bond angle 
as well as distance.

Apologies for the multiple emails, but I hope that is closer to what you're 
looking for.

Cheers,
Jared


On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Sampson, Jared 
mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org>> wrote:


Hi Markus -

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your request at first.

What about the "acceptors" and "donors" selectors?  
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Single-word_Selectors

e.g.
select hbond_residues, byres ((acceptors within 3.5 of donors) or (donors 
within 3.5 of acceptors))

Cheers,
Jared

--
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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.edu/





On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Markus Heller  wrote:


Hi Jared,

Thanks for the reply.

This is NOT what I'm looking for.  As you stated, distance mode 2 yields the 
*distances* as dashes, but not the actual residues.  I don't want the dashes, 
but I want the residues (i.e. the donors and acceptors) in selectable objects.

I hope it's clearer now what I'm after .

Cheers
M

From: Sampson, Jared [mailto:jared.samp...@nyumc.org]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 3:33 PM
To: Markus Heller
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Show all residues forming H-bonds

Hi Markus -

Under the GUI "action" menu A > find > polar contacts, you'll find several 
options which will create a new object with all the specified distances as 
dashes.

This is also available with `distance` command.  
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Distance

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Jared

--
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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.edu/






On Oct 10, 2014, at 2:45 AM, Markus Heller  wrote:



Hello list,

subject says it all.  The 2 options I came across search the www are:

http://sourceforge.net/p/pymol/mailman/message/7562444/http://sourceforge.net/p/pymol/mailman/message/7562444/

and DistancesRH 
(http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/DistancesRH)http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/DistancesRH

Is this current state-of-the-art, true-and-tried, or is there something more 
powerful hiding out there?

Thanks
Markus
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