Re: [PyMOL] Light Command Details needed

2009-08-21 Thread Henning Stehr
Hi Sean,

 I could not find a way to search the archived sourceforge messages,

It is indeed easy to miss but at the bottom of every message there is
a link to the searchable archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Henning

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Sean Mooresemo...@mail.ucf.edu wrote:
 Hello,

 I could not find a way to search the archived sourceforge messages, so
 I apologize if this has been asked and answered.

 I am having trouble moving the light source before a ray command (I
 want to shine it into the crevice of a structure from behind and above
 my current view).

 I ended up using light, [1,5,-100].  I know these are X,Y,Z
 coordinates, but relative to what origin and in what units?  After
 wasting way too much time, I concluded that the values might be
 Angstroms relative to the eyes of the current view.  In examples I
 found online, the numbers are small, so this doesn't make much sense.

 Also, I see there are several light sources available.  As more and
 more lights are turned on, do the XYZ values for each additional get
 taken in order from the top of the list?  Is there a way to change the
 intensity of each light in addition to its position?

 Thanks for any help.

 -Sean







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[PyMOL] Light Command Details needed

2009-08-20 Thread Sean Moore
Hello,

I could not find a way to search the archived sourceforge messages, so  
I apologize if this has been asked and answered.

I am having trouble moving the light source before a ray command (I  
want to shine it into the crevice of a structure from behind and above  
my current view).

I ended up using light, [1,5,-100].  I know these are X,Y,Z  
coordinates, but relative to what origin and in what units?  After  
wasting way too much time, I concluded that the values might be  
Angstroms relative to the eyes of the current view.  In examples I  
found online, the numbers are small, so this doesn't make much sense.

Also, I see there are several light sources available.  As more and  
more lights are turned on, do the XYZ values for each additional get  
taken in order from the top of the list?  Is there a way to change the  
intensity of each light in addition to its position?

Thanks for any help.

-Sean







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Re: [PyMOL] Light Command Details needed

2009-08-20 Thread Pete Meyer
Hi Sean,

 I ended up using light, [1,5,-100].  I know these are X,Y,Z  
 coordinates, but relative to what origin and in what units?  After  
 wasting way too much time, I concluded that the values might be  
 Angstroms relative to the eyes of the current view.  In examples I  
 found online, the numbers are small, so this doesn't make much sense.

These values are the x,y,z components of the light vector.  The units 
are irrelevant ( [1,1,-1] == [2,2,-2], at least to my eyes judging the 
output images).  I don't believe there's a defined origin, either (it's 
not a point light source).

Pete

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Re: [PyMOL] Light Command Details needed

2009-08-20 Thread Warren DeLano
The light and lightN settings are direction vectors, not coordinates.

Intensity (reflect setting) is averaged across all such directional  
sources.

It has recently been suggested that we need better control over  
lighting.

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On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Sean Moore semo...@mail.ucf.edu wrote:

 Hello,

 I could not find a way to search the archived sourceforge messages, so
 I apologize if this has been asked and answered.

 I am having trouble moving the light source before a ray command (I
 want to shine it into the crevice of a structure from behind and above
 my current view).

 I ended up using light, [1,5,-100].  I know these are X,Y,Z
 coordinates, but relative to what origin and in what units?  After
 wasting way too much time, I concluded that the values might be
 Angstroms relative to the eyes of the current view.  In examples I
 found online, the numbers are small, so this doesn't make much sense.

 Also, I see there are several light sources available.  As more and
 more lights are turned on, do the XYZ values for each additional get
 taken in order from the top of the list? Is there a way to change the
 intensity of each light in addition to its position?

 Thanks for any help.

 -Sean







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