Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 10:27:48AM -0800, DeLano Scientific wrote:
> My preference would be for a fast, clean, back-end cheminformatics library
> with a simple C API that could be exposed to and interporate with Python,
> Java, C, C++, SQL, and .NET.  Several proprietary examples of this design
> exist, and they are all quite successful.  
> 
> We need an open-source equivalent!

Well, openbabel tries to do that but could need more help from the
community maybe.  (It is C++ rather than C, though, but has binding for
python and other languages).


Michael



Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-20 Thread Raúl Mera
My preference would be for something implemented in
Python/C. The project could start with a clean,
extensible (it should be easy to add new molecules)
and modular Python library and then start replacing
some functions with C equivalents. I would like a
library that doesn't use inheritance, or use it at
less as possible (it makes too difficult to read code)
which could only
contain descriptions of molecules and maybe perform
some basic operations (functions could be and are
implemented in other libraries) Even when the library
wolud be in Python, It should be easy to "plug" C
functions into it so we would not loose in
performance. It should also be as similar to chempy as
possible so pymol  could be easily ported to it.
I don't know how well chempy fits with the avobe
description, because, due of the lack of
documentation, I only use it in a very basic way.
Maybe It only needs minor changes and documentation to
become the standar in chemical objects for Python.

It sounds an interesting project. I would probably
join if something comes out

Cheers

Raúl 


>CDK is too Java-centric in my view, and I'll be the
>first to admit that
>Python is much too slow for cheminformatics.
>
>My preference would be for a fast, clean, back-end
>cheminformatics 
>library
>with a simple C API that could be exposed to and
>interporate with 
>Java, C, C++, SQL, and .NET.  Several proprietary
>examples of this 
>design
>exist, and they are all quite successful.  

>We need an open-source equivalent!

>Cheers,
>Warren
>DeLano Scientific LLC



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Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-20 Thread DeLano Scientific

CDK is too Java-centric in my view, and I'll be the first to admit that
Python is much too slow for cheminformatics.

My preference would be for a fast, clean, back-end cheminformatics library
with a simple C API that could be exposed to and interporate with Python,
Java, C, C++, SQL, and .NET.  Several proprietary examples of this design
exist, and they are all quite successful.  

We need an open-source equivalent!

Cheers,
Warren
DeLano Scientific LLC

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> Of Jerome Pansanel
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:08 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Frowns is another Python-based chemical informatics library, 
> but is no more maintained. A great idea would be to initiate 
> such project. We could based the design on the CDK library 
> (http://cdk.sourceforge.net/).
> 
> Comments or suggestions ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jerome Pansanel
> 
> 
> Le lundi 20 novembre 2006 17:14, DeLano Scientific a écrit :
> > Bgbg,
> >
> > The idea behind chempy was that it could eventually be 
> developed into 
> > a Python-based chemical informatics library.  In practice, however, 
> > its capabilites and performace are quite limited and so it 
> mainly just 
> > exists for use by PyMOL.  No, there is no documentation for chempy 
> > other than the code and its usage.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > DeLano Scientific LLC
> > Email Support Services
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> > > -Original Message-
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> > > bg
> > > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:59 AM
> > > To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: [PyMOL] chempy documentation
> > >
> > > Hello, all.
> > > Is there any chempy documentation available? I've 
> searched the web 
> > > for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant. Do PyMol 
> > > subscribers have access to extra documentation?
> > >
> > > Thank you
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Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-20 Thread Jerome Pansanel
Hi,

Frowns is another Python-based chemical informatics library, but is no more 
maintained. A great idea would be to initiate such project. We could based 
the design on the CDK library (http://cdk.sourceforge.net/).

Comments or suggestions ?

Cheers,

Jerome Pansanel


Le lundi 20 novembre 2006 17:14, DeLano Scientific a écrit :
> Bgbg,
>
> The idea behind chempy was that it could eventually be developed into a
> Python-based chemical informatics library.  In practice, however, its
> capabilites and performace are quite limited and so it mainly just exists
> for use by PyMOL.  No, there is no documentation for chempy other than the
> code and its usage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> DeLano Scientific LLC
> Email Support Services
>
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> > Of bgbg bg
> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:59 AM
> > To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [PyMOL] chempy documentation
> >
> > Hello, all.
> > Is there any chempy documentation available? I've searched
> > the web for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant. Do
> > PyMol subscribers have access to extra documentation?
> >
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Re: [PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-20 Thread DeLano Scientific
Bgbg,

The idea behind chempy was that it could eventually be developed into a
Python-based chemical informatics library.  In practice, however, its
capabilites and performace are quite limited and so it mainly just exists
for use by PyMOL.  No, there is no documentation for chempy other than the
code and its usage.

Cheers,

DeLano Scientific LLC
Email Support Services 

> -Original Message-
> From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf 
> Of bgbg bg
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:59 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] chempy documentation
> 
> Hello, all.
> Is there any chempy documentation available? I've searched 
> the web for a while, but couldn't find anything relevant. Do 
> PyMol subscribers have access to extra documentation?
> 
> Thank you
> 
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[PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-11-20 Thread bgbg bg

Hello, all.
Is there any chempy documentation available? I've searched the web for
a while, but couldn't find anything relevant. Do PyMol subscribers
have access to extra documentation?

Thank you



[PyMOL] chempy documentation

2006-08-07 Thread Raúl Mera
Hello all.

I'm planning to write a couple of Pymol plugins, and I
would like to know if there is some documentation for
the chempy library, and if so, how can I get it

Thanks in advance

Raul

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