Re: [PyMOL] minimum rotation between views
many thanks……much appreciated. jon Dr. Jonathan M. Grimes, NDM Senior Reseach Fellow University Research Lecturer DIAMOND Research Fellow Division of Structural Biology Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics University of Oxford Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK Email: jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk, Web: www.strubi.ox.ac.uk Tel: (+44) - 1865 - 287561, FAX: (+44) - 1865 - 287547 On 25 Nov 2013, at 18:29, Sampson, Jared jared.samp...@nyumc.org wrote: Hi Jonathan - There is a script by Christoph Gohlke on the PyMOL Wiki called transformations.py which may be useful. It provides several functions that can be used to manipulate quaternions. I used it to calculate pseudo-twofold axes for my Fab elbow angle script last year. The implementation would be different, using camera matrices instead of object matrices, but the general idea would be similar. Cheers, Jared -- Jared Sampson Xiangpeng Kong Lab NYU Langone Medical Center 550 First Avenue New York, NY 10016 212-263-7898 http://kong.med.nyu.edu/ On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: Jonathan, this is called the quaternion difference, but I don't know how you get access to quaternions in PyMOL. If you could, you would just take the difference between the two quaternion representations of the views and get it's angle for the corresponding axis-angle. Jason, are there standard Python utilities that one can use to get the quaternion equivalents of PyMOL matrices? Bob On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Grimes jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk wrote: is there a script available to calculate the min rotation about a vector that describes the relationship between 2 views…… i am happy to ignore any translational component but i have 2 views of a molecule and want to say that theres a *** deg rotation between the 2 views ? thanks jon Dr. Jonathan M. Grimes, NDM Senior Reseach Fellow University Research Lecturer DIAMOND Research Fellow Division of Structural Biology Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics University of Oxford Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK Email: jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk, Web: www.strubi.ox.ac.uk Tel: (+44) - 1865 - 287561, FAX: (+44) - 1865 - 287547 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. = -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing
[PyMOL] minimum rotation between views
is there a script available to calculate the min rotation about a vector that describes the relationship between 2 views…… i am happy to ignore any translational component but i have 2 views of a molecule and want to say that theres a *** deg rotation between the 2 views ? thanks jon Dr. Jonathan M. Grimes, NDM Senior Reseach Fellow University Research Lecturer DIAMOND Research Fellow Division of Structural Biology Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics University of Oxford Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK Email: jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk, Web: www.strubi.ox.ac.uk Tel: (+44) - 1865 - 287561, FAX: (+44) - 1865 - 287547 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [PyMOL] minimum rotation between views
Jonathan, this is called the quaternion difference, but I don't know how you get access to quaternions in PyMOL. If you could, you would just take the difference between the two quaternion representations of the views and get it's angle for the corresponding axis-angle. Jason, are there standard Python utilities that one can use to get the quaternion equivalents of PyMOL matrices? Bob On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Grimes jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.ukwrote: is there a script available to calculate the min rotation about a vector that describes the relationship between 2 views…… i am happy to ignore any translational component but i have 2 views of a molecule and want to say that theres a *** deg rotation between the 2 views ? thanks jon Dr. Jonathan M. Grimes, NDM Senior Reseach Fellow University Research Lecturer DIAMOND Research Fellow Division of Structural Biology Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics University of Oxford Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK Email: jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk, Web: www.strubi.ox.ac.uk Tel: (+44) - 1865 - 287561, FAX: (+44) - 1865 - 287547 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [PyMOL] minimum rotation between views
Hi Jonathan - There is a script by Christoph Gohlke on the PyMOL Wiki called transformations.pyhttp://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Transformations which may be useful. It provides several functions that can be used to manipulate quaternions. I used it to calculate pseudo-twofold axes for my Fab elbow anglehttp://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Elbow_angle script last year. The implementation would be different, using camera matrices instead of object matrices, but the general idea would be similar. Cheers, Jared -- Jared Sampson Xiangpeng Kong Lab NYU Langone Medical Center 550 First Avenue New York, NY 10016 212-263-7898 http://kong.med.nyu.edu/ On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edumailto:hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: Jonathan, this is called the quaternion difference, but I don't know how you get access to quaternions in PyMOL. If you could, you would just take the difference between the two quaternion representations of the views and get it's angle for the corresponding axis-angle. Jason, are there standard Python utilities that one can use to get the quaternion equivalents of PyMOL matrices? Bob On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Grimes jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.ukmailto:jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk wrote: is there a script available to calculate the min rotation about a vector that describes the relationship between 2 views…… i am happy to ignore any translational component but i have 2 views of a molecule and want to say that theres a *** deg rotation between the 2 views ? thanks jon Dr. Jonathan M. Grimes, NDM Senior Reseach Fellow University Research Lecturer DIAMOND Research Fellow Division of Structural Biology Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics University of Oxford Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK Email: jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.ukmailto:jonat...@strubi.ox.ac.uk, Web: www.strubi.ox.ac.ukhttp://www.strubi.ox.ac.uk/ Tel: (+44) - 1865 - 287561tel:%28%2B44%29%20-%201865%20-%20287561, FAX: (+44) - 1865 - 287547tel:%28%2B44%29%20-%201865%20-%20287547 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. = -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page:
