RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)

2004-04-13 Thread Warren DeLano
Ken's answer covers it...the following just provide a little more in-depth
coverage:

What has happened is that PyMOL now supports the picking of multiple atoms,
so use of the lb and rb selections is less necessary.  Picking and selecting
are not the same thing in PyMOL.  Selections are merely lists of atoms.
Picked atoms utilize chemical and topological properties to provide you with
a much richer set of options, including a family of automatically generated
selections (such as pkresi).

CTRL-middle-click has always been the "picking" action, and it still works
to pick one or more atoms (first pk1, then pk2, pk3, and pk4).  

This can get confusing -- especially for new users.  So, in the default
viewing mode, ctrl-right-click can always be used to clear the current pick
set and pick a new single atom. (In Editing mode, ctrl-right-click still
picks and rotates bonds, as before).

I believe that all of the PyMOL actions which used to require the lb and rb
selections now use pk1 and pk2 instead.  This probably impacts measuring of
distances most significantly:

The quickest way to measure distances in PyMOL 0.95 and beyond is this:  

   In Viewing Mode:

  ctrl-right-click on the first atom
  ctrl-middle-click on the second atom
  type ctrl-X  -or- use the "dist" command (with optional name)

   Anywhere else:

  first, make sure no atoms are picked (click or type unpick)
  ctrl-middle-click on the first atom
  ctrl-middle-click on the second atom
  type ctrl-X  -or- use the "dist" command (with optional name)

As you're discovered, double-right-click works just like ctrl-middle-click.
This makes it easier to perform certain actions without constantly have to
invoke the ctrl key.

Cheers,
Warren

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> Carina Lobley
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> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)
> 
> Hi,
> I had that problem this weekend too. I've found that ctrl 
> right click picks one atom and shift right double click picks 
> a second atom. That seems to work for the 'dist' and 'bond' 
> commands anyway!
> 
> Regards,
> Carina
> 
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Eksterowicz, John wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am using the latest version of Pymol and I cannot figure 
> out how to 
> > pick more than one atom.
> >
> > In the past, ctrl-shft lb, picked the first atom, and ctrl-shft rb 
> > would pick a second atom.  But now, ctrl-shft rb brings up 
> a pop-up menu.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > John Eksterowicz
> > Celera Genomics
> >
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)

2004-04-13 Thread Lind, Kenneth
The lb and rb selections have changed in version 0.95.  Looks like the "new" 
way to do this is with pk1 and pk2.

Use ctrl-middle-click, or double-right-click to pick each atom.  The first atom 
you pick will be pk1, the second will be pk2, etc. (up to pk4).

You can then use ctrl-x to get the distance between pk1 and pk2, or ctrl-t to 
create a bond (or use the 'dist' or 'bond' commands).

Ken

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:51 AM
To: Eksterowicz, John
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)


Hi,
I had that problem this weekend too. I've found that ctrl right click
picks one atom
and shift right double click picks a second atom. That seems to work
for the 'dist' and 'bond' commands anyway!

Regards,
Carina

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Eksterowicz, John wrote:

>
> I am using the latest version of Pymol and I cannot figure out how to
> pick more than one atom.
>
> In the past, ctrl-shft lb, picked the first atom, and ctrl-shft rb would
> pick a second atom.  But now, ctrl-shft rb brings up a pop-up menu.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> John Eksterowicz
> Celera Genomics
>




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Re: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)

2004-04-13 Thread Carina Lobley
Hi,
I had that problem this weekend too. I've found that ctrl right click
picks one atom
and shift right double click picks a second atom. That seems to work
for the 'dist' and 'bond' commands anyway!

Regards,
Carina

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Eksterowicz, John wrote:

>
> I am using the latest version of Pymol and I cannot figure out how to
> pick more than one atom.
>
> In the past, ctrl-shft lb, picked the first atom, and ctrl-shft rb would
> pick a second atom.  But now, ctrl-shft rb brings up a pop-up menu.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> John Eksterowicz
> Celera Genomics
>





[PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)

2004-04-12 Thread Eksterowicz, John

I am using the latest version of Pymol and I cannot figure out how to
pick more than one atom.

In the past, ctrl-shft lb, picked the first atom, and ctrl-shft rb would
pick a second atom.  But now, ctrl-shft rb brings up a pop-up menu.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
John

John Eksterowicz
Celera Genomics


RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine

2002-03-03 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Thanks Warren,

I can set my depth cue to 24-bit (I'm running Pymol on a sony vaio SR1K
laptop) and this works fine. Great package! I'll be waiting for the
minimiser so I can do RSR on my laptop!

Flip

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From: DeLano, Warren [mailto:war...@sunesis.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 18:58
To: Flip Hoedemaeker; pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine


Hi Flip,

   This can happen on some graphics cards if the color depth isn't high
enough.  If you're in 16-bit color, try switching to 32 bit color using
the start->settings->control-panel->display->settings->colors, and then
restart PyMOL.  If this is still happening with 32-bit color, then
you've found a genuine bug, so please let me know what your exact PyMOL
version and hardware configuration is.

Cheers,
Warren


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> -Original Message-
> From: Flip Hoedemaeker [mailto:f...@keydp.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have a problem with picking atoms with the "ctrl
> middle" mouse
> option. When I click on a specific atom a different atom is actually
> selected, usually far away in the structure. The same happens
> with the "ctrl
> left" option (+lb). Can somebody tell me what is going on?
>
> Flip
>
>
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RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine

2002-03-01 Thread DeLano, Warren
Hi Flip,

   This can happen on some graphics cards if the color depth isn't high
enough.  If you're in 16-bit color, try switching to 32 bit color using
the start->settings->control-panel->display->settings->colors, and then
restart PyMOL.  If this is still happening with 32-bit color, then
you've found a genuine bug, so please let me know what your exact PyMOL
version and hardware configuration is.

Cheers,
Warren


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Informatics Manager
Sunesis Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
341 Oyster Point Blvd.
S. San Francisco, CA 94080
(650)-266-3606  FAX:(650)-266-3501



> -Original Message-
> From: Flip Hoedemaeker [mailto:f...@keydp.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I seem to have a problem with picking atoms with the "ctrl 
> middle" mouse
> option. When I click on a specific atom a different atom is actually
> selected, usually far away in the structure. The same happens 
> with the "ctrl
> left" option (+lb). Can somebody tell me what is going on?
> 
> Flip
> 
> 
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[PyMOL] picking atoms on a Win 2000 machine

2002-03-01 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Hi,

I seem to have a problem with picking atoms with the "ctrl middle" mouse
option. When I click on a specific atom a different atom is actually
selected, usually far away in the structure. The same happens with the "ctrl
left" option (+lb). Can somebody tell me what is going on?

Flip





RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms

2002-01-21 Thread DeLano, Warren
> From: Vajdos, Felix [mailto:felix_vaj...@groton.pfizer.com]

> Does anyone know of a quick and easy way of just listing the 
> atoms in a
> selection (i.e.  I figured out how to interactively add atoms 
> to a selection
> with Ctrl-LB, but I would like a way of just writing out a 
> list of the atoms
> so picked).  Of course, I can label all the atoms and write 
> down what they
> are, but I was hoping there was some way of just listing them 
> (or writing
> out a list of them).

iterate (lb),print chain,resi,resn,name

- Warren




[PyMOL] picking atoms

2002-01-21 Thread Vajdos, Felix
Hello,

Does anyone know of a quick and easy way of just listing the atoms in a
selection (i.e.  I figured out how to interactively add atoms to a selection
with Ctrl-LB, but I would like a way of just writing out a list of the atoms
so picked).  Of course, I can label all the atoms and write down what they
are, but I was hoping there was some way of just listing them (or writing
out a list of them).

Felix

Felix F. Vajdos
Pfizer Inc
Eastern Point Road
MS 4039
Groton, CT  06340

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