Re: [PyMOL] Monitors for molecular Modelling (Stereo 3D LCDs)
FYI: I just heard back from nVidia regarding the status of the Quadro drivers for the 3D Vision glasses to be used with the Samsung 2233RZ and other 120Hz full-field LCD displays (ViewSonic): Release was originally intended by April, but so far it hasn't happened. In their own words: I do not know the exact release date however it should be around the same time as when new QuadroFX drivers based on the Release 185 driver branch is available in the near future... Cheers, Warren -Original Message- From: owner-chemistry+warren==delsci@ccl.net [mailto:owner- chemistry+warren==delsci@ccl.net] On Behalf Of Vincent.Leroux]|[loria.fr Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:02 AM To: Warren DeLano Subject: CCL: Monitors for molecular Modelling Sent to CCL by: Vincent.Leroux:_:loria.fr Hi Peter, This might interest you: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperiphe ralstype=monitorssubtype=lcdmodel_cd=LS22CMFKFV/ZA This is an LCD monitor capable of doing 120 Hz natively. Resolution is 1680x1050, which is the most common with computer flat screens (better forget 1280x1024)... It sells for ?300 in France right now. 2x60 Hz stereoscopic glasses can be bought separately from nVidia ($200, or $600 bundled with the Samsung monitor). They are especially interesting as the stereo support is done at the drivers level. http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_Main.html For the moment, unfortunately, the stereo drivers are only available for mainstream GeForce cards under Windows Vista, but it should not take long before nVidia provides Linux drivers. Support for the Quadro range was announced for spring 2009, this might be done at the same time. The glasses are also compatible with any CRT monitor capable of = 100 Hz - so the old 21 30kg CRT monsters from Mitsubishi/Sony/Illyama, which can be found 2nd hand for about nothing, are interesting. This is good to know if you want to stick to 1280x1024, as LCD panels perform very poorly when not set to the native resolution. Bear in mind that stereo with CRTs is quite painful to the eyes, the new Samsung LCD might be significantly more confortable to work with... VL Peter Bladon cbas25,,strath.ac.uk owner-chemistry##ccl.net a écrit : Sent to CCL by: Peter Bladon [cbas25(~)strath.ac.uk] With regard to the hand-held stereoviewers that were sold by VCH. VCH was I think the marketting arm of the German Chemical Society, but was aquired by Wiley some time between 1993 and 2003 (my vagueness here is because I am looking at the imprints of books published on these dates). Whether Wiley are still selling the viewers is another matter. There were two models (I got both of them when the Royal Society of Chemistry was selling them). With regard to monitors, Mitsubishi-Electric advertised their Diamond 1080p DLP HDTV as being capable of stereo viewing using shutter glasses. It came in three models 57, 65 and 73 inches. They have sockets for connection to computers, and resolutions up to 1280 x 1024 and 1920 x 1080. I do not know how much they cost. They were announced in North America, and I recollect that MItsubishi in the UK had no record of them I have always thought that using twin projectors was a better solution for viewing stereo when more than one person is involved. But projectors with native resolution of 1280 x 1024 (which I regard as a standard) are rather rare. Peter Bladon Interprobe Chemical Services Gallowhill House, Larch Avenue Lenzie, Kirkintilloch Glasgow G66 4HX -=his is automatically added to each message by the mailing script = To recover the email address of the author of the message, please change the strange characters on the top line to the @ sign. You can also look up the X-Original-From: line in the mail header. E-mail to subscribers: chemis...@ccl.net or use: http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message E-mail to administrators: chemistry-requ...@ccl.net or use http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml Before posting, check wait time at: http://www.ccl.net Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs Conferences: http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/searchccl/index.shtml If your mail bounces from CCL with 5.7.1 error, check: http://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt RTFI: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/aboutccl/instructions/
Re: [PyMOL] Monitors for molecular Modelling (Stereo 3D LCDs)
I just installed the NVIDIA GLX Module 185.19 Sat Apr 4 07:32:28 PST 2009 (beta) driver on Linux and found in the README.txt: Option "Stereo" "integer" Enable offering of quad-buffered stereo visuals on Quadro. Integer indicates the type of stereo equipment being used: Value Equipment -- --- 1 DDC glasses. The sync signal is sent to the glasses via the DDC signal to the monitor. These usually involve a passthrough cable between the monitor and the graphics card. This mode is not available on G8xGL and higher GPUs. 2 "Blueline" glasses. These usually involve a passthrough cable between the monitor and graphics card. The glasses know which eye to display based on the length of a blue line visible at the bottom of the screen. When in this mode, the root window dimensions are one pixel shorter in the Y dimension than requested. This mode does not work with virtual root window sizes larger than the visible root window size (desktop panning). This mode is not available on G8xGL and higher GPUs. 3 Onboard stereo support. This is usually only found on professional cards. The glasses connect via a DIN connector on the back of the graphics card. 4 TwinView clone mode stereo (also known as "passive" stereo). On graphics cards that support TwinView, the left eye is displayed on the first display, and the right eye is displayed on the second display. This is normally used in conjunction with special projectors to produce 2 polarized images which are then viewed with polarized glasses. To use this stereo mode, you must also configure TwinView in clone mode with the same resolution, panning offset, and panning domains on each display. 5 Vertical interlaced stereo mode, for use with SeeReal Stereo Digital Flat Panels. 6 Color interleaved stereo mode, for use with Sharp3D Stereo Digital Flat Panels. 7 Horizontal interlaced stereo mode, for use with Arisawa, Hyundai, Zalman, Pavione, and Miracube Digital Flat Panels. Am 21.04.2009 17:33, schrieb Warren DeLano: FYI: I just heard back from nVidia regarding the status of the Quadro drivers for the 3D Vision glasses to be used with the Samsung 2233RZ and other 120Hz full-field LCD displays (ViewSonic): Release was originally intended by April, but so far it hasn't happened. In their own words: "I do not know the exact release date however it should be around the same time as when new QuadroFX drivers based on the Release 185 driver branch is available in the near future..." Cheers, Warren -Original Message- From: owner-chemistry+warren==delsci@ccl.net [mailto:owner- chemistry+warren==delsci@ccl.net] On Behalf Of Vincent.Leroux]|[loria.fr Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:02 AM To: Warren DeLano Subject: CCL: Monitors for molecular Modelling Sent to CCL by: Vincent.Leroux:_:loria.fr Hi Peter, This might interest you: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperiphe ralstype=monitorssubtype=lcdmodel_cd=LS22CMFKFV/ZA This is an LCD monitor capable of doing 120 Hz natively. Resolution is 1680x1050, which is the most common with computer flat screens (better forget 1280x1024)... It sells for ?300 in France right now. 2x60 Hz stereoscopic glasses can be bought separately from nVidia ($200, or $600 bundled with the Samsung monitor). They are especially interesting as the stereo support is done at the drivers level. http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_Main.html For the moment, unfortunately, the stereo drivers are only available for mainstream GeForce cards under Windows Vista, but it should not take long before nVidia provides Linux drivers. Support for the Quadro range was announced for spring 2009, this might be done at the same time. The glasses are also compatible with any CRT monitor capable of = 100 Hz - so the old 21" 30kg CRT monsters from Mitsubishi/Sony/Illyama, which can be found 2nd hand for about nothing, are interesting. This is good to know if you want to stick to 1280x1024, as
