[pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-04 Thread Isaac Gouy
Hi A simple yes / no question. Do you want PyPy to be shown in the benchmarks game or not? Please consider the question amongst yourselves and then let me know. Of course, I'll make up my own mind but at least I'll be able to take your wishes into account. best wishes, Isaac ___

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > We don't get that information now at least, since those > benchmarks are badly skewed towards CPython. I know how > hard is to find out a reasonable set of benchmarks and how to > keep them balanced. Do you mean the program you contribut

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > I have another issue with ctypes & numpy. This is that > C implementations are allowed to use gcc-specific hacks and > non-standard libraries (apache malloc for gcbench). Why wouldn't > we be allowed to do the same then? Would you describe

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > > Do you mean the program you contributed is badly > skewed towards CPython? > > > > http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/program.php?test=nbody〈=pypy&id=1 > > > > No > > > > > Do you mean that the n-body problem is badly skewed > toward

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > > CPython bugs - How strange that the CPython bug was > never mentioned! - maybe. > > > > Ok. The bug was not mentioned because it takes time to > decide "it's a bug". I know someone decided "it's a bug" because someone said so in a blog

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Isaac Gouy
The benchmarks game web pages now only show one language implementation for each programming language. Java -Xint, Tracemonkey JavaScript, LuaJIT, CPython, Iron Python, PyPy, Ruby 1.8.7 and JRuby 1.6 are no longer shown. ___ pypy-dev@codespeak

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > > The benchmarks game web pages now only show one > language implementation for each programming language. > > > > Java -Xint, Tracemonkey JavaScript, LuaJIT, CPython, > Iron Python, PyPy, Ruby 1.8.7 and JRuby 1.6 are no longer > shown. > > > > A

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > I guess a lot of discussions are about getting some sort of > consensus. I see this one is so you can know what we think > and that's it. Well, that comes as a bit of surprise. I don't know why that would come as any surprise - "Of course

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Piotr Skamruk wrote: -snip- > remember that You are not comparing languages, but their > implementations That's correct! "Which programming languages are fastest? No. Which programming language implementations have the fastest benchmark programs?" http://shootout.aliot

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Isaac Gouy
--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: -snip- > No. I think it's bad for you good for us. Then you have your wish - be happy ;-) ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev