Re: [pypy-dev] Bachelor Thesis - STM / ATM

2012-09-30 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Andreas, On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Andreas Pedersen wrote: > I don't currently have an > overview of the code, so I can't see how far you are and what subproblems > you are tackling. Any help on finding a good subject would be appreciated. Someone else is planning his Master Thesis on

Re: [pypy-dev] nightly builds require OpenSSL 1.0 ?

2012-09-30 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: >> or statically link everything in... at least people will be able to >> run pypy on their machines. > > you cannot statically link glibc and libffi is compiled without -fPIC > on debian/ubuntu to make it harder To summarize: it's a

[pypy-dev] PyPy STM

2012-09-30 Thread Russel Winder
Armin, Sarah and I are restarting our work on CSP, and extending to creating actors and a dataflow library. It would be good to make this work on Jython, IronPython and PyPy as well as CPython. However we want to get away from a reliance on multiprocessing since it is rather heavyweight for the so

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy STM

2012-09-30 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Russel, On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > However we want to get > away from a reliance on multiprocessing since it is rather heavyweight > for the sort of parallelism we are after. STM as an infrastructure layer > in PyPy and CPython would get us away from the GIL and a

Re: [pypy-dev] MalGen as a benchmark?

2012-09-30 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Chris Leary wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: >> Looks like it could be a good addition, have you run benchmarks on it >> yourself? (Also, should we be directing any new benchmarks to the >> python-speed mailing list?) > > It's the setup

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy STM

2012-09-30 Thread Ronny Pfannschmidt
Hi, the following is a collection of unfinished thoughts. after my thesis i'll be experimenting with a relaxed csp-ish model based on python native generator based continuations as well as the new continulet-jit-3 based greenlets. my basic assumption is that having limited amount of shared memo

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy STM

2012-09-30 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Ronny, On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ronny Pfannschmidt wrote: > after my thesis i'll be experimenting with a relaxed csp-ish model > based on python native generator based continuations as well as > the new continulet-jit-3 based greenlets. > > my basic assumption is that having limited am

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy STM

2012-09-30 Thread Ronny Pfannschmidt
On 09/30/2012 04:22 PM, Armin Rigo wrote: Hi Ronny, On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ronny Pfannschmidt wrote: after my thesis i'll be experimenting with a relaxed csp-ish model based on python native generator based continuations as well as the new continulet-jit-3 based greenlets. my basic

Re: [pypy-dev] MalGen as a benchmark?

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Leary
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > at current svn version it plain doesn't work without seed data Yeah, the first step is that it has to generate seed data. Since it's the same loop I'd hope that's good enough. Python2.7 seems to run ~2 seconds faster on a ~minute lengt

Re: [pypy-dev] MalGen as a benchmark?

2012-09-30 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Chris Leary wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: >> at current svn version it plain doesn't work without seed data > > Yeah, the first step is that it has to generate seed data. Since it's > the same loop I'd hope that's good enough.