[pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Phyo Arkar
I am wondering, is it theoretically possible to reach performance of HHVM? >From benchmark game , it is the highest performance of all the dynamic languages. ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
bah. Did you notice that pypy is not even in the benchmark game? On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Phyo Arkar wrote: > I am wondering, is it theoretically possible to reach performance of HHVM? > From benchmark game , it is the highest performance of all the dynamic > languages. > > > > __

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Phyo Arkar
http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r9&hw=peak&test=query Sorry , this benchmark game i meant :D On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > bah. > > Did you notice that pypy is not even in the benchmark game? > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Phyo Arkar > wr

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Mark Roberts
The benchmarks game shows Hack being 190x slower than Python3 at calculating pidigits. The benchmarks for Hack are all terrible. What makes you say it is the fastest dynamic language in the game? -Mark On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Phyo Arkar wrote: > I am wondering, is it theoretically po

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
I have no idea what they're doing there, which version of pypy they're using etc. They're also comparing apples and oranges (a random choice of web framework?) for example a uwsgi+pypy outperforms tornado + pypy by quite a large margin (I hit client limits when trying), but it implements less. How

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Phyo Arkar
sorry guys , i forgot to mention i was talking about TechEmpower benchmarks. Not Debian shootout. I haven;t check there yet. But i think Techempower case is a bit more real world? but only covering web+database benchmarks tho. ___ pypy-dev mailing list p

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Phyo Arkar
>uwsgi+pypy outperforms tornado + pypy by quite a large margin (I hit client limits when trying) Very interesting , i got to try uwsgi+pypy-tornado combo. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Phyo Arkar wrote: > sorry guys , i forgot to mention i was talking about TechEmpower > benchmarks. Not Deb

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Phyo Arkar wrote: >>uwsgi+pypy outperforms tornado + pypy by > quite a large margin (I hit client limits when trying) > > Very interesting , i got to try uwsgi+pypy-tornado combo. so here is a trick. tornado is a web framework that does tons of stuff. PHP does not

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Phyo Arkar
Right, I just realize that. There using plain HHVM vs All other Frameworks , not even fair. Only thing that is not framework is Node.js there. On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Phyo Arkar wrote: >>uwsgi+pypy outperforms tornado + pypy by > quite a large margin (I hit client limits when trying) > >

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread INADA Naoki
I'm contributor of Python benchmarks in the game. Please don't rely on performance on PEAK, especially multiple query test. Contributors use only EC2 environment. I can't know how many workers required for maximize performance on PEAK and i7. CPU bound tests (json, plaintext) should be CPU bound,

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:32 PM, INADA Naoki wrote: > I'm contributor of Python benchmarks in the game. > Please don't rely on performance on PEAK, especially multiple query test. > > Contributors use only EC2 environment. > I can't know how many workers required for maximize performance on PEAK an

Re: [pypy-dev] Will pypy reach performance of HHVM?(one Day)

2014-09-06 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi all, On 7 September 2014 03:01, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > did you read my previous post how this is apples to oranges? You > should setup some more barebone thing than tornado to "compare" Maybe we should mention that PyPy's JIT technology, when applied straight to the Hippy VM, gives a PHP