Re: [Python-3000] PEP 3121 implemented

Martin v. Löwis wrote: Third, once you managed to truly separate interpreters, you *will* have to marshal objects across interpreters, as there won't be any shared ones. It's in the same address space, but you still would have to do marshalling, or else you might introduce sharing again. I saw

Re: [Python-3000] PEP 3121 implemented

Stefan Behnel wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> I just finished a PEP 3121 implementation > > Maybe a bit late for this question, but: > > Was it necessary to remove Py_InitModule4() for this change? We use that in > Cython, so this breaks building extension module in current Py3. Hmmm, ok, loo

Re: [Python-3000] PEP 3121 implemented

Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I just finished a PEP 3121 implementation Maybe a bit late for this question, but: Was it necessary to remove Py_InitModule4() for this change? We use that in Cython, so this breaks building extension module in current Py3. Stefan ___

[Python-3000] No betas today

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Much thanks to Benjamin Peterson and Alexandre Vassalotti for providing much help today trying to get the betas out. Unfortunately, it's not gonna happen today. There are two issues blocking the release. http://bugs.python.org/issue3088 http:/

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Potential beta showstopper (was Re: Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me)

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Benjamin Peterson >> >> Already done. > > Done what? Fixed, or backed out? Any more details? Old farts who > aren't on IRC want to know. :-) That would be fixed. > > -- > --Guido van Ro

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Betas today - I hope

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Alexandre Vassalotti wrote: I have two release blockers pending review: http://bugs.pytho

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Potential beta showstopper (was Re: Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me)

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Okay, we have a potential showstopper for the betas today. All the 3.0 >> buildbots are bloody red: >> >> http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/s

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Betas today - I hope

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Alexandre Vassalotti wrote: >> I have two release blockers pending review: >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2918 >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2917 >> >> I believe both patches are ready to b

Re: [Python-3000] Trunk / branch switch

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is already planned the moment when "trunk" will mean Py 3, and the Py 2 development will be carried on in a branch? Guido> I don't think such a moment is planned. It would have to be f

[Python-3000] MANIFEST.in -> MANIFEST

Could someone give a try to Py3K distutils to see iff 'MANIFEST' is correctly generated from 'MANIFEST.in', specially in the case of having 'include' and 'recursive-include' sentences? -- Lisandro Dalcín --- Centro Internacional de Métodos Computacionales en Ingeniería (CIMEC) Instit

Re: [Python-3000] Trunk / branch switch

>> Is already planned the moment when "trunk" will mean Py 3, and the Py >> 2 development will be carried on in a branch? Guido> I don't think such a moment is planned. It would have to be far Guido> in the future, when 2.x is only used by old farts. I suspect I might qualify as

Re: [Python-3000] Potential beta showstopper (was Re: [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me)

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Okay, we have a potential showstopper for the betas today. All the 3.0 > buildbots are bloody red: > > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/stable/ > > Running the tests loc

[Python-3000] Potential beta showstopper (was Re: [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, we have a potential showstopper for the betas today. All the 3.0 buildbots are bloody red: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/stable/ Running the tests locally on OS X 10.5 and Ubuntu 8.04 confirm that the tests hang after test_xmlrpc.

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Alexandre Vassalotti wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My plan is to begin building the betas tonight, at around 9 or 10pm EDT (0100 to 0200 UTC Thursday). If a showstopp

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My plan is to begin building the betas tonight, at around 9 or 10pm EDT > (0100 to 0200 UTC Thursday). If a showstopper comes up before then, I'll > email the list. If you think we really aren't ready for beta, then I woul

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://bugs.python.org/issue2997 Guido's approved the patch. Please go ahead and apply it. If no one gets to it

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2997 > > Guido's approved the patch. Please go ahead and apply it. If no one gets > to it before tonight, I'll put it in beta 1 if it applies cleanly. I'm going to handle it. -- Cheers,

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:15 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: Guido van Rossum wrote: anything someone really needs me to look at ASAP (e.g. a BDFL decision affecting the impending beta release) please send me an email This seems to require a BDFL decision

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://bugs.python.org/issue643841 >> >> It's a long bug thread, but needs a decision. > > I just added a couple of messages at the end that recap the more recent > discussions (the early responses to the issue are *really*

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This seems to require a BDFL decision: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue2997 > > Executive Summary: PyNumberMethods has been changed on py3k back in 2006 with > the nb_divide removal, so it's now incompatible with Py2. But

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:32 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two things I'd like to get in to 3.0: > > * .transform()/.untransform() methods (this is mostly done, just need > to add the methods to PyUnicode, PyBytes and PyByteArray) I'm +0 on this. It is very minor synt

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release > blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch of severe thunderstorms > knock out my 'net access until this morning. > > I'll try to find some time

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Betas today - I hope

On 2008-06-11 17:15, Walter Dörwald wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 2008-06-11 13:35, Barry Warsaw wrote: So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch of severe thunderstorms knock out my 'net access until this morning.

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 2008-06-11 13:35, Barry Warsaw wrote: So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch of severe thunderstorms knock out my 'net access until this morning. I'll try to find some time during the day

Re: [Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

On 2008-06-11 13:35, Barry Warsaw wrote: So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch of severe thunderstorms knock out my 'net access until this morning. I'll try to find some time during the day to look at the RB iss

Re: [Python-3000] Trunk / branch switch

I don't think such a moment is planned. It would have to be far in the future, when 2.x is only used by old farts. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is already planned the moment when "trunk" will mean Py 3, and the Py > 2 development will be carried on

[Python-3000] Trunk / branch switch

Hi all :) Is already planned the moment when "trunk" will mean Py 3, and the Py 2 development will be carried on in a branch? Thanks! -- . Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___ Python-3000 mailing list P

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: I've been sick since Saturday and still don't feel up to much. I've collected a severe email backlog going back to June 6th. If there's anything someone really needs me to look at ASAP (e.g. a BDFL decision affecting the i

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: I've been sick since Saturday and still don't feel up to much. I've collected a severe email backlog going back to June 6th. If there's anything someone really needs me to look at ASAP (e.g. a BDF

[Python-3000] Betas today - I hope

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So I had planned to do a bunch of work last night looking at the release blocker issues, but nature intervened. A bunch of severe thunderstorms knock out my 'net access until this morning. I'll try to find some time during the day to look at th

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Have been sick, am behind on mail, let me know if there's anything urgent for me

Guido van Rossum wrote: All, I've been sick since Saturday and still don't feel up to much. I've collected a severe email backlog going back to June 6th. If there's anything someone really needs me to look at ASAP (e.g. a BDFL decision affecting the impending beta release) please send me an emai

Re: [Python-3000] python3000 udp problem

Long Ge wrote: import socket if __name__ == '__main__': print("main") udp = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET,socket.SOCK_DGRAM) udp.sendto("1",0,('127.0.0.1 ',3722)) udp.close() *output:* main Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python30\Projects\udp.p

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Stabilizing the C API of 2.6 and 3.0

On 2008-06-11 05:42, Gregory P. Smith wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:44 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2008-06-09 07:20, Gregory P. Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:19 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2008-06-03 01:29, Gregory P. Smith wrote: On Mon,