On 5/22/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's why Java and C++ use \u, so you would write L\u00F6wis
> as an identifier. ...
> I think you are really arguing for \u escapes in identifiers here.
Yes, that is effectively what I was suggesting.
> *This* is truly unambiguous. I c
On 5/22/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Referring to my alternate alternative proposal -- user-controlled
transliteration, rather than unicode escapes in identifiers]
> >> Then I don't understand your above proposal. I thought you were
> >> proposing to replace all non-ASCII cha
On 5/21/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With that said, I would to request svn access to the sandbox for my
> > work. I will use this access only for modifying stuff in the directory
> > I will be assigned to. I would like to use the username "avassalotti"
> > and the attached
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I have accepted PEP 3131.
I'm surprised that this happened so quickly. I oppose this proposal
quite strongly.
Currently Python has the property that the character set is a fully
known quantity. There currently exists a choice of keyboard, a choice
Em 22/05/2007, às 19:08, Ka-Ping Yee escreveu:
>
> Currently Python has the property that the character set is a fully
> known quantity. There currently exists a choice of keyboard, a choice
> of editor, and a set of literacy skills that is sufficient for any
> Python code in the world.
>
No, an
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Leonardo Santagada wrote:
> > Today, if a non-English speaker asks you how to learn Python, you can
> > answer that question. You can explain Python's syntax and semantics,
> > and tell them they need to know the 26 letters of the Roman alphabet.
> Have you ever explained that
Hi, this is my first post to the list. My name is
Steve Howell, and I currently work on a system,
largely written in Python, that processes a billion
transactions per year. On the opposite side of the
sprectrum, I've also had experience in classrooms
using Python as a teaching tool.
In the syste
On 5/22/07, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Python fits your brain. Let's keep it that way.
I'm sorry, Ping, but you sound just like I was feeling about the PEP
at the start (and many others were too). You missed a bunch of
enlightening posts from people with quite a different perspectiv
On 5/22/07, Alexandre Vassalotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As you see, cStringIO's code also needs a good cleanup to make it,
> at least, conforms to PEP-7.
Alexandre,
It would be great if you could break up unrelated changes into
separate patches. Some of these can go in sooner rather than
Jim Jewett writes:
> On 5/22/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That's why Java and C++ use \u, so you would write L\u00F6wis
> > as an identifier. ...
> > I think you are really arguing for \u escapes in identifiers here.
>
> Yes, that is effectively what I was sugges
On 5/22/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In the system I've worked on for the last three years,
> we have at least 200 calls to the builtin open()
> method.
This number is meaningless by itself. 200 calls in how many lines of code?
How many files total and how many files use open?
--- Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/22/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > In the system I've worked on for the last three
> years,
> > we have at least 200 calls to the builtin open()
> > method.
>
> This number is meaningless by itself. 200 calls in
> how many
On 5/23/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 17.7% of the files I searched have calls to open().
My understand is that the mythical "python 2.x -> 3.0" tool will
automatically migrate your code by using the AST to find all
references to "open" and when finding one, add the correct import
--- Guillaume Proux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/23/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 17.7% of the files I searched have calls to
> open().
>
> My understand is that the mythical "python 2.x ->
> 3.0" tool will
> automatically migrate your code by using the AST to
> find all
On 5/22/07, Guillaume Proux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/23/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 17.7% of the files I searched have calls to open().
>
> My understand is that the mythical "python 2.x -> 3.0" tool will
> automatically migrate your code by using the AST to find all
>
On 5/22/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But since you mentioned conversion, our system is a
> good example of a shop that will be running multiple
> versions of Python side by side for many years. We'll
> cut over new components to Py3k, and then we'll
> gradually upgrade legacy co
Steve Howell schrieb:
> --- Guillaume Proux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/07, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > 17.7% of the files I searched have calls to
>> open().
>>
>> My understand is that the mythical "python 2.x ->
>> 3.0" tool will
>> automatically migrate your co
--- Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ISTM that many modules using open() do also use
> os.path
> utilities to create the filename given to open(). In
> that
> case, you have an import statement in any case.
>
Not the case for us:
154 modules call only open()
11 modules call only o
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