[Python-3000] 3.0 alpha builds break on FreeBSD.

2008-03-08 Thread Mike Meyer
The 3.0 alphas don't seem to build on FreeBSD. I've tried on both 6.2-stable and 7.0-RELEASE, using both make and gmake on each. They all start complaining about bad commands in the makeilfe, then seem to be working fine, then complain about a recursion in the dependency graph, and stop. The probl

Re: [Python-3000] should Python 3's executable install as 'python'?

2008-03-08 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:33:21 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I still think it worthwhile to have *some* target in the Makefile > > which depends on altinstall and does the bininstall and maninstall > > steps. Something like "makeprimar

Re: [Python-3000] 3.0 alpha builds break on FreeBSD.

2008-03-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The 3.0 alphas don't seem to build on FreeBSD. That's not what the buildbot says: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.0/x86%20FreeBSD%203.0/builds/530/step-configure/0 http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.0/x86%20FreeBSD%203.0/builds/530/step-compile/0 > The problem appears to be related to c

Re: [Python-3000] The case for unbound methods?

2008-03-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
Anthony Tolle wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Would you mind giving an "executive summary" of your argument that >> doesn't require scanning 40 lines of code? >> > > Let me put it this way: if unbound methods are gone for good, then I > thi

Re: [Python-3000] The case for unbound methods?

2008-03-08 Thread Steven Bethard
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Anthony Tolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me put it this way: if unbound methods are gone for good, then I > think it would nice to develop some guidance on checking the signature > of callable objects, to enable decorators to play nice with each > other--es

Re: [Python-3000] The case for unbound methods?

2008-03-08 Thread Anthony Tolle
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it so crucial that "self" is the first argument? If I use a > decorator that adds a new element to the beginning of the argument > list, I wouldn't be surprised that I now have to write my methods as:: > > @a

Re: [Python-3000] The case for unbound methods?

2008-03-08 Thread Steven Bethard
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Anthony Tolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is it so crucial that "self" is the first argument? If I use a > > decorator that adds a new element to the beginning of the argument >

Re: [Python-3000] should Python 3's executable install as 'python'?

2008-03-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:33:21 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > I still think it worthwhile to have *some* target in the Makefile > > > which depends on a