hello,
on Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:04:44 -0500, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:18 PM, nirinA raseliarison
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hello all,
>> i tried to build Python3.0b1 but the make process hangs
>> while running:
>
>Building with gcc 4.3 is buggy. See
>http://mail.pytho
This isn't meant to stir controversy -- I'm more curious than anything else.
I was noticing some percentage (hard to say), that are less than excited
about
the next incompatible version of Perl 6. It's not that it may not
'better' in some
design and orthogonal feature set, but its partly do t
Linda W. wrote:
But *some* of thei things that may have attracted people to python or
perl in the first place may be items replaced. Prints are no longer
builtin statements, but functions in standard function format. Tends to
'unbeautify' the code a bit. A few other regularizing features ha
On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Linda W. wrote:
But *some* of thei things that may have attracted people to python
or perl in the first place may be items replaced. Prints are no
longer builtin statements, but functions in standard function
format.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008, Linda W. wrote:
>
> This isn't meant to stir controversy -- I'm more curious than anything else.
This is the wrong place for this discussion. Please use comp.lang.python
(gateway of python-list).
--
Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/
Neil Schemenauer arctrix.com> writes:
> I wonder if it would make sense to start installing the Python
> standard library as a .zip file by default. Some benefits would be
> a tidier and more compact install and slightly faster startup times.
Are any users complaining about Python's install size
I'm -1 on this as it would make more cumbersome to grep all the
modules looking for something.
James
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wonder if it would make sense to start installing the Python
> standard library as a .zip file by default. Some b
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On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Linda W. wrote:
But *some* of thei things that may have attracted people to python
or perl in the first place may be items replaced. Prints are no
longer builtin statements, but functions in stan
Jesse Noller wrote:
On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Care to give any examples of 'unbeautifying' other than the print
statement -> print function conversion?
I would tend to disagree that the new print function is less "pretty" -
I've actually found it to
I think this would be a mistake by default -- being able to read the
source *easily* (i.e. without any specific tools) is part of Python's
success.
However I think it would be useful to support this better for more
easy creation of Python distributions embedded in other apps. E.g. at
my previous j
Neil Schemenauer wrote:
I wonder if it would make sense to start installing the Python
standard library as a .zip file by default. Some benefits would be
a tidier and more compact install and slightly faster startup times.
One downside is that it becomes more difficult to look at the source
of m
Guido van Rossum wrote:
I think this would be a mistake by default --
> being able to read the
source *easily* (i.e. without any specific tools) is part of Python's
success.
For startup and import speed (and self-contained distributions),
do not we only need a zip of the .pyc files?
Not hav
1. Non-issue to me, real issues to some.
2. Wrong group, expecially if you want dissenting opinions ;-).
3. print: 3.0 normal 'file = xxx' is visually prettier than 2.x
idiosyncratic line-noisy '>> xxx'. I also prefer new 'except TypeError
as t' to old 'except TypeError,t' since latter falsel
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> I think this would be a mistake by default --
>
>> being able to read the
>>
>> source *easily* (i.e. without any specific tools) is part of Python's
>> success.
>
> For startup and import speed
There is a typo on the download page (http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/):
"""The release plan is to have a series of alpha releases in 2007,
beta releases in 2008, and a final release in September 2008. The
alpha releases are primarily aimed at developers who want a sneak peek
at the new la
Hi,
I have implemented PEP 3134 exception reporting in
http://bugs.python.org/issue3112
The code is fully functional but it needs a final clean-up and that clean-up
is awaiting answers to the following questions:
1) API visibility: should we expose a function PyErr_DisplaySingle in order
to di
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On Jun 21, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Leif Walsh wrote:
There is a typo on the download page (http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/
):
Fixed, thanks!
- -Barry
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Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For startup and import speed (and self-contained distributions),
do not we only need a zip of the .pyc files?
Not having those around would make browsing the .py files easier.
Could tracebacks be mak
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