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Can this ticket be marked as a release blocker so it's not forgotten
about for 2.7?
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Alright. So in Python 3.1, this is the behavior:
>>> BaseException().message
(attribute error)
>>> BaseException("foo").message
(attribute error)
>>> BaseException("foo", "bar").message
(attr
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
Hm. That PEP is marked as rejected, though. I guess it was partially
implemented, those changes included in the Python 2.5 release, and then
it was decided that it was a bad idea, rejected, and the changes undone
for 3.x (what about 2.7)? Or did
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After looking at this more carefully, I find myself wondering what
exactly is being deprecated at all.
Brett said:
> it's needed for anyone who came to rely on the feature in their 2.5
code from Python.
Can someone help me understand what the fe
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
This also affects Twisted. We worked around it a couple months ago by
putting a read-only `message` property onto our Exception subclass
(Here's the revision: <http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/changeset/27062>).
This seemed reasonable enough, b
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Thanks for that Georg.
I'm still having trouble with this. I'm aware that the issue tracking
isn't the right place to ask for help with writing programs, but I think
that since I still can't get this code to work, even looking at t
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Oops. I wrote "In contract" in my previous message. I meant "In contrast".
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Hi Georg, thanks for your comment.
I'm not sure I fully understand, though.
The compiler package is widely used, okay. So I suppose that means that
the desire here is to make those users happy?
But the compiler package is deprecated, and has known
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None of the documentation seems to cover this parameter. The test suite
doesn't even seem to exercise it, either. What does it do? What kind
of values are expected to be passed for it?
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Ah, thanks for the clarification, Philip. I've attached another patch
updating those docs.
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Bugs are no longer being fixed in the compiler package. To me, that
says it should be regular-deprecated. People with no short term plans
of switching to Python 3 will still want to avoid the compiler package.
They should be told about the deprecation
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According to http://docs.python.org/library/compiler.html, the compiler
package is deprecated. However, importing the compiler package does not
emit a deprecation warning. It should, to convey this information to
people who are actually trying to use
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
Hey Philip,
I'm not sure I follow. The patch only changes the os module, not the
subprocess module. What subprocess documentation do you think needs to
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Attached os-popen-list.patch which includes all of the earlier
os-popen.diff and adds tests which fail without this patch and pass with
it. They also pass on Python 2.5. The patch is against the Python 2.6
maintenance branch, but presumably it should be
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I hope you'll also write some unit tests for privilege.py (actually, I
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It would still be nice to have the currently unimplemented platform
wrappers added to the standard library, though. For example, as solinym
pointed out, getresuid and getresgid are not currently wrapped at all.
There may be other low-level APIs which may
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Maybe this should just be a third-party module for the time being? That
removes the question of which stdlib module to add it to for now. Plus,
since it's not just a straightforward platform API wrapper, it probably
merits separate distribution t
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If it's not a problem, then the invoker doesn't need to check the exit
code of setup.py. Why are you resistant to exposing more information?
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This makes it more easily possible for automated systems to detect that
there was a problem with the build.
Checking an exit code is easy. Grabbing and parsing stdout and stderr
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Here's a patch implementing part of the requested feature.
pystones cannot tell the difference between tr...@head with or without
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Notice what it does to other dict keys:
>>> simplejson.dumps({1: 1})
'{"1": 1}'
In other words, I don't think this is a bug. It's how JSON works. JSON
dict keys are str
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The os module is mostly for wrappers around native platform APIs. So at
the very least, I don't think such an API belongs there. It would fit
in to a general process-related module, perhaps.
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It might be better to pick a better (but probably platform-specific) API
for such a use-case. os.kill has a problem with false positives (on
Linux it will tell you a process exists even when it doesn't). Looking
in /proc/ or using a Windows A
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For what it's worth, here are some timings from my system. First,
os.kill without raising an exception:
exar...@boson:~$ python -m timeit -s 'import os; pid = os.getpid()' '
os.kill(pid, 0)
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100 loops, best of 3: 0.413 us
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This is quite a microoptimization. Why do you think you need to avoid
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The load_tests feature will be new in 2.7. Earlier in the unittest
documentation, there's a mention that loadTestsFromModule was changed in
2.7 to add support for load_tests. However, the main documentation for
load_tests doesn't say anyt
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exar...@boson:~$ cat > test_foo.py
from unittest import TestCase
class SomeTests(TestCase):
def test_foo(self):
pass
exar...@boson:~$ python -m unittest test_foo
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> It's not, I was more thinking of push_str(foo), where it uses a
default encoding. I think some people don't know what unicode or
encoding is, or don't want to worry about it.
Nice as it sounds, the problem with this is that those p
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> It's not 'that' clear you should only work with bytes on a socket.
It's pretty clear to me. :) That's what sockets can deal with - bytes.
If you want to transfer something other than bytes via a socket, then
you need to
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Cool, thanks. PyCrypto also works again now.
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It looks like this change may have broken some parts of distutils. For
example, Twisted's setup.py now produces this output when running the
build_ext command:
$ ~/Projects/python/trunk/python setup.py build_ext
running build_ext
Traceback (most r
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Cool. I'm convinced.
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FWIW, here are some use cases:
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/tags/releases/twisted-8.2.0/twisted/python/context.py#L32
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/tags/releases/twisted-8.2.0/twisted/python/log.py#L270
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac
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> IIRC, Guido has previously rejected this suggestion and its variants.
Got a link? It'd be nice to know what the rationale was.
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Why so much opposition to the shorter spelling of .copy() & .update()?
As Tim pointed out, lists, tuples, and strings all provide this
shortcut. Why not dicts?
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I ran 2to3 over Twisted r27084 like this:
time ~/Projects/python/trunk/python
/home/exarkun/Projects/python/trunk/Tools/scripts/2to3 -j 4 twisted/ >
2to3.patch
Visual inspection revealed some curious defects, and attempting to apply
it failed like t
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Solaris 10 introduced "The Event Completion Framework". I am not
particularly familiar with Solaris, so I couldn't say whether it would
be better to target this or the older /dev/poll. Some documentation
suggests that "The Event Comp
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
You're talking about adding a non-local goto feature to the language.
This would be a huge change, and not one that is generally in the
direction that any widespread languages (let alone Python itself) are
going these days.
Please raise this on o
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I found a couple mistakes in test_with.py with Pyflakes.
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I just want to second Kristján's position. I've used assertRaises a lot
over the years (an implementation in a third-party unit testing library)
and it is extremely common that I want the exception object to perform
the kind of checks he is
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Consider this source file:
# coding: ascii
☃
It is not a valid Python program (for several reasons). The first
problem encountered is that bytes representing SNOWMAN do not fit into
ASCII, so the file cannot be decoded using the declared encoding
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I found XMLGenerator in xml.sax.saxutils. Attached patch changes
expatreader to use that instead. Though I have no idea what the point
of this stanza is. I suppose it's to exercise the code, in lieu of some
unit tests. It might be better to just d
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So how about it?
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Perhaps the C implementation should interpret the stacklevel parameter
differently so that it is compatible with the Python implementation.
The stacklevel value is, after all, a very important part of the
interface of warnings.warn, as it is the only way
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This was done long ago, it seems.
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Any plans for a unit test for this change?
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Have you checked to see what the result of a ** b is?
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If an extension type supplies a tp_new or tp_init, these will be invoked
by the normal instantiation logic. They will also be exposed as
`__new__´ and `__init__´ attributes of the type. However, there is no
way to supply a docstring for these methods
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Creation of GC'd types is explained at
<http://docs.python.org/c-api/gcsupport.html>.
The docs claim that PyObject_GC_Track must be called once an object
created with PyObject_GC_New is initialized. The docs fail to explain
what should be do
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pygtk doesn't release the GIL around its internal calls unless you call
threads_init. So I think this is pretty clearly just a misuse of the
pygtk library. There's nothing at all Python can do about it. If an
extension library doesn't
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Oh, I forgot dictionaries aren't weakrefable. That's such a pain, I
thought the third solution would be a good balance between easy and good. :/
Regarding the first solution, my only question right now is whether this
should be a new attribute/
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When a frame's f_locals attribute is accessed, one of two things happens:
* If this is the first access, a new dictionary is created and it is
populated with the locals from the frame (since they are not stored
internally as a dictionary).
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Perhaps Gregory has some idea about how this can most easily be
resolved, since I think he did the work on #3745 which introduced this
change in behavior.
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I would certainly like to, but unfortunately at present I am unable to.
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It seems a patch would be an enormous undertaking, as the data structure
returned by the parser does not include this information, and the parser
is written in C.
I'll just hack around this somehow. Don't expect a pat
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Here's a new patch which adds SetParamEntityParsing to the pyexpat
library docs and adds another test for external entity reference
handling. This is probably all I'll do on this ticket.
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Here's a patch which removes sgmlop support from xmlrpclib.
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Here's a patch which renames `_result´ to `_resultForDoCleanups´.
Another possibility would be for `doCleanups´ to take the result object
as an argument. This would make it harder for applications to call
directly, though (I've never wan
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r72219 introduced an `_result´ attribute to `TestCase´. As `TestCase´
is designed specifically with the intent that applications should
subclass it -- and frequently -- I would suggest that the attribute be
given a name less likely to collide with a
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It used to be possible to use hashlib with arrays; it no longer seems
possible.
exar...@charm:~$ python -c '
import sys, hashlib, array
print sys.version_info
print hashlib.sha1(array.array("b", [1, 2, 3])).hexdigest()
'
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
> Even though I still don't understand the original issue, apparently,
> it is an issue only if the localtime() function is used. Extensions
> that don't use it might still work fine, according to the report.
I have an extension which
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Per issue3308, it is not really possible to build Python extensions with
MinGW anymore (as far as I can tell). The distutils documentation is
misleading in this regard, as is the continued existence of the
build_ext --compiler=mingw32 option. The
New submission from Jean-Paul Calderone :
Python includes several APIs for manipulating TLS:
PyAPI_FUNC(int) PyThread_create_key(void);
PyAPI_FUNC(void) PyThread_delete_key(int);
PyAPI_FUNC(int) PyThread_set_key_value(int, void *);
PyAPI_FUNC(void *) PyThread_get_key_value(int
Jean-Paul Calderone added the comment:
This actually appears to be an issue with the sgmlop-based parser, not
the expat-based parser. After removing sgmlop, the exception-raising
behavior is restored.
Perhaps this bug should be closed as invalid, then. Only, I wonder if
this is the right bug
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Prior versions of xmlrpclib.loads would raise an exception when passed
malformed documents:
exar...@bigdog24:~/_trial_temp$ python2.4 -c 'from xmlrpclib import
loads; loads("\x00\n\n \n \n \n
\n\n")'
Traceback (most recent call la
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Hi Benjamin,
Thanks for this fix. :) I noticed the revision in your comment doesn't
seem to be the one that contains the fix though.
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/Any/ addCleanup that is successfully executed should cause the cleanup
function to be called. Otherwise you have to define all your cleanup
twice, and that's no fun.
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> And maybe the addCleanup components could be a stack of callable objects?
Yea, that's handy. My example didn't show it, but that's what trial
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Here's one:
class ReactorShutdownInteraction(unittest.TestCase):
"""Test reactor shutdown interaction"""
def setUp(self):
"""Start a UDP port"""
self.serve
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dpaste.com will eventually discard your proof. You should include all
information for a bug report on the tracker. You can include the code
in a comment or attach it to the ticket as a file.
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> I think the policy is to mirror all possible O_* constants, even if they
> are of no use in Python. For example, we also have os.O_DIRECTORY.
Not disagreeing with the conclusion of this ticket, but I would like to
point out that os.O_DIRECTORY
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codecs.lookup is documented as returning a tuple. It actually returns a
what the registered lookup function returns, which really *should* be a
codecs.CodecInfo instance. If a registered lookup function actually
returns a tuple, then codecs.getreader
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To clarify, I'll probably work on this patch a bit more later, adding a
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Here's the version I have now. I don't think it's complete, but it
finishes the test started in the previous patch, and the test passes.
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Thanks, that helped a bunch. I'm sure it would have taken me a long
time to find SetParamEntityParsing(XML_PARAM_ENTITY_PARSING_ALWAYS).
Perhaps it would also be good to expand the pyexpat documentation to
cover that method and parameter (unless
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Lacking unit tests for this (documented) functionality makes it harder
for alternate Python runtimes to correctly provide it. Plus, if it's
not tested, it might not work.
I tried to write tests for the feature since I recently used it and
thoug
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Unit tests are a great thing as well. Also, the deprecation warnings
you've added are the really annoying kind. They refer to users to the
source of the deprecated methods themselves! A vastly preferable use of
the warnings system is to refer use
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> UTF-7 already sounds like something horrible for me, but a *modified*
> UTF-7 encoding is something a little bit more strange for me. Why not
> reusing directly UTF-7.
UTF-7 wasn't horrible for its time, but its time has very likely
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Read the docs for kill(2). -1 is a completely legitimate PID.
Recommend close as invalid.
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IMAP4 UTF-7 is implemented in Twisted -
<http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/trunk/twisted/mail/imap4.py#L5385>,
<http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/trunk/twisted/mail/test/test_imap.py#L58>.
Feel free to re-use any of that code that woul
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Hi Antoine,
> > Surely the majority of the burden is imposed by the C
implementation. I expect that 90% of the time spent fixing bugs will be
spent fixing them in C.
> Hmm, it depends. It's probably true in general, but I suspect a fair
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> We don't maintain any other features in two languages for those
purposes. IMO, it will just be more of a burden to fix bugs in two
different places as compared to the advantages you mention.
Surely the majority of the burden is imposed
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> Oh, and "what to do of the now unused pure Python implementations in
io.py"? Easiest would be to dump them, as they will probably get
hopelessly out of sync, but perhaps there's some genuine
portability/educational advantage to ke
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If pydoc is used to try to look up the documentation for a module which
does not exist, this is reported reasonably:
exar...@charm:~$ pydoc foobarbaz
no Python documentation found for 'foobarbaz'
exar...@charm:~$
However, if
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The weekly tracker summary emails sent to python-dev contain incorrect
information. The value for the "median duration of open issues" it
reports has recently wrapped around to 0 and started growing from there.
Looking at older reports, it&#x
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> It's indeed possible to provide that as a third-party module; one
> would have to implement an EntityResolver, and applications would
> have to use it. If there was a need for such a thing, somebody would
> have done it years ago.
I do
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Though it's inconvenient to do so, you can arrange to have the locator
available from the entity resolver. The content handler's
setDocumentLocator method will be called early on with the locator
object. So you can give your entity resolver a
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Some comments on tmp_dev_shelver.py...
Regarding SQLhash.__init__, it would be better to avoid relying on the
"sqlite_master" table by using the CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS form of
table creation.
Setting the isolation_level in __init__
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