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New submission from Laura Creighton:
Another one in to webmaster.
Somebody tried to install 3.5 on his windows server 2003 x86 R2 Standard
Edition Sp2 ENU, and was told that Vista or later is required.
Is this correct behaviour, or did we forget about such people? Near as
I can tell some
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This in from python-list. 2 complaints.
conflict with a notepad++ plugin and incorrect permissions.
Date:Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:30:32 +
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From:Jay Hamm <ha...@vmware.c
New submission from Laura Creighton:
webmaster has heard from 2 windows 10 users who say that when
they click on 'download windows 3.5.1' they are sent to
this page https://www.python.org/downloads/windows/
instead of actually getting a download.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
Right now there is no way, aside from writing your own openhook, to
get around the limitation that openhook=fileinput.hook_encoded("utf")
will open things with the default option for codecs.open()
of errors=strict. Adding a way to pass the error
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I haven't made a patch to Python for over 10 years. Before mercurial. :) Where
do you start in terms of 'how to submit a patch'?
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webmaster got another one of these today.
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Where does it go if the user hasn't set %LOCALAPPDATA% ?
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I don't know the answer, but from the point of view of a webmaster who
gets support requests and doesn't have a windows system, it would be
very useful to already know where a person's python is supposed to
be, and thus good if the documentation said something
New submission from Laura Creighton:
Somebody reported this today:
File "C:/Python27/kivyhello.py", line 4, in
from kivy.app import App
File "C:/Python27\kivy\app.py", line 316, in
from kivy.base import runTouchApp, stopTouchApp
File "C:/Python
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Do we need a full path name here as well? Probably not.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
can I send a file
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
I'm not sure about "Neither you nor Python will be able to import
the stdlib." Depending on what the file is, you may be able to import
it later. I'd prefer:
"If you run Python in this directory, your version of
will be used ins
Laura Creighton added the comment:
webmaster just got mail from another person hit with this on Windows 10.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
Re: misunderstanding
Sorry Terry. From my end the great 4 day "weekend of mail.python.org needs to
be rebuilt from scratch" happened precisely as I was about
to reply to your post. The reply to Peter Otten showed up later
as part of my mailer ag
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Note that the full path name of the file that is doing the shadow
is of important interest to teachers. We get machines will all sorts of
garbage written on them -- the amount of hell caused by a misnamed turtle.py is
hard to measure -- and anything as helps
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s/machines will/machines with/
(I was tired.)
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
Another 2 bits of data:
I now know of 2 separate users from a Swedish teenager mailing list, whose
machines (in each case 'my father's old laptop') didn't have SSE2. One youth
was running XP but spent today successfully migrating to windows 7 with help
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Further conversation has confirmed that the person is on XP.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
Ok, where do we put the info about how to create a private build? And
who will write it? (I lack the understanding.) Does it belong in:
https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html
or some place else
Laura Creighton added the comment:
He says that he got an error saying something was compiled SSE2 and needed to
be SSE, but if we are going to detect XP then that will be
a better error message.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
Another report in to webmaster:
I tried to install Python 3.5.0 from [1]https://www.python.org/ftp/python/
3.5.0/python-3.5.0.exe but I get an error and I'm not able to install, is
this exe compiled with SSE2 instructions? Apparently no msi available
Does
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I think it would be useful if the IDLE icon was overlayed with
the text of what version of Python you are running.
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Okay, sorry for the noise then. The problems of not having a windows system to
check.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
Okay then, wherever we put the -- Beginning with 3.5 we are not
supporting 3.5 we need to also tell people whose CPUs lack SSE2
that they are out of luck, as well.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
webmaster is hearing from children who have downloaded 3.5 but who
are still getting 2.7 when they click on desktop Python icons, and
type python at a console prompt.
a checkbox on the installer saying 'make this my default python' that
would then go off any
Laura Creighton added the comment:
checking, these kids are using computers where, at some point, somebody moved
the idle shortcut from their 2.7 folder to the desktop. Which was probably a
very bad idea.
But what should I tell them to do to get 3.5 there instead?
(adding IDLE to 'Type
New submission from Laura Creighton:
https://docs.python.org/3.5/using/windows.html should list which
windows service packs are needed to install Python. Could somebody
knowledgable please add this information.
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Got another log of an Error 0x802400
This is a windows 7 user reporting it to webmaster.
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The person with the problem has reported to webmaster than the first method in
this list http://wind8apps.com/error-0x80240017-windows/
did not fix his problem.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
On thinking things over, I think that venv is, as it stands now,
only able to work with python3.3 and greater.
If you want to build a virtualenv for python 2.7, then I think
venv is not for you.
I think this needs to be mentioned
New submission from Laura Creighton:
I am reporting this here so that the next person who runs into this and looks
into the bug tracker will find out what to do.
You cannot create a venv with Python3.3, 3.4, 3.5. on debian (and likely
on many debian-derived distros).
Instead you get Error
New submission from Laura Creighton:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html nowhere explicitly states
how you are supposed to get a venv with a particular python version.
Users of virtualenv will be looking for a -p option.
The doc says:
"Creation of virtual environments is
Laura Creighton added the comment:
The problem is that people who run into venv will think that it is
virtualenv made into part of the standard library. Thus they
will have a great expectation that there will be a -p option to
specify the python version that they want and that they can get 2.7
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Due to debian policy decision
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732703
neither pyenv nor python -m venv
may work for you.
While things are getting changed, it would be good if people running into
this problem got a better error message than
Laura Creighton added the comment:
And now, I want to open this again.
I'd like to change python -m venv (and pyenv) to say something more useful than
Command '['/bin/python3.4', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '--upgrade',
'--default-pip']' returned non-zero exit status
1
if it cannot find
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I do not think that asking there will help right now because the problem is
that the whole site is down, and mailman isn't running either ...
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I could. Have you heard from doko? If python3 on debian unstable is about to
become python3.5 and things work fine on 3.5 I wonder if it is worth the effort.
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Laura Creighton added the comment:
Things work with python3.5 so this is an issue with what debian sid calls
python3 (i.e. CPython 3.4.3+ (default, Jul 28 2015, 13:17:50) [GCC 4.9.3])
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(as expected) Fails when invoked as python3.4 as well.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
I have tried this on several debian unstable releases, and get the following 3
failures
lac at smartwheels:~$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version:
core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core
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So this is a debian packaging issue we need to tell the debian package
maintainers about?
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Python 3.4.3+ (default, Jul 28 2015, 13:17:50)
[GCC 4.9.3] on linux
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import tkinter
tcl = tkinter.Tcl()
tcl.getboolean(42)
42
tkinter.BooleanVar.set
function BooleanVar.set at 0x7f15b780bea0
print
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Terry Reedy asked me to add this here. Either this bug is not fixed, or I am
getting a new one.
I have tried this on several debian unstable releases.
lac at smartwheels:~$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version:
core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core
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I tried to run some tests from the python3.4 test suite and got:
python3 -m test -ugui test_tk test_ttk_guionly test_idle
/usr/bin/python3: Error while finding spec for 'test.__main__' (class
'ImportError': bad magic number in 'test': b'\x03\xf3\r\n'); 'test
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Definitely 3.3 and 3.4. I asked, got back '3.3 through the latest' so
maybe 3.5 was not the latest where he was ...
I will go ask again for 3.5 in particular.
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New submission from Laura Creighton:
Another report from webmaster. (I still don't have a windows machine).
Somebody tried to install 3.3, 3.4 or 3.5 and got this error. I asked
them to try the Activestate installer. That worked. Thus Activestate
knows to include something that users
New submission from Laura Creighton:
This came in to webmaster, i.e. I don't have the machine with the
problem and cannot test it. Two different people reported the
same thing. One of them was able to get things working by running as Admin.
The other was not. He was able to get things
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Arggh!
Components seems to be a radio box here? As in I can select
Windows or Installation but not both? And by selecting installation
again, I killed David's selection of Windows?
Added this to put Windows back, but, well, if this is what we have
New submission from Laura Creighton:
On some operating systems, for instance a Macbook Pro with Retina, the
bottoms of hanging letters such as 'g' or 'y', as well as underscorces, cannot
be seen in IDLE. The fix is to go to Options - Configure IDLE, and change the
size of the default font
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Thank you. I don't think that this problem is unique to Retina Macbooks -- I
had it on an ancient Toshiba laptop I was using about 15 years ago.
It's not something that I have thought of very much recently
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I don't have one, alas. It was a question sent to webmaster. I just
happened to know that reconfiguring your font size fixes the 'no
underscore' problem, so it occured to me that mentioning this in the
idle documentation might save some grief
Laura Creighton added the comment:
Antione closed this, as a not python error, as
if you do not pass a valid certificate to openssl s_client
it will not read the system certificates, which is clearly
utterly surprising and nuts.
The problem, as I see it, is that fixing this clear
absurdity may
Laura Creighton added the comment:
In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1014640
it says :
FIX:
Fixed in Ubuntu 14.04 apparently.
Openssl upstream, see http://rt.openssl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2732
But I think the person who wrote that launchpad note was mistaken
Laura Creighton added the comment:
I have this problem too.
Debian jessie/sid
Python 2.7.8 (default, Nov 18 2014, 14:57:17)
Python 3.4.2 (default, Nov 13 2014, 07:01:52)
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