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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66286367/why-is-my-function-faster-than-pythons-print-function-in-idle,
Feb 2021, was about this issue. In my answer I verified the claim and then
showed in further experiments
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Ned, I like your idea. In particular, link to sysconfig.get_paths for how
prefix is used on a particular machine to define installation paths.
Sidenote:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/sysconfig.html#installation-paths
says "Python currently sup
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On Windows, I believe the correct sentence would be "On Windows, they are in
prefix/Lib and prefix/include". Ned, how to complete "On macOS, they are in ?."
Victor, with recent file movement, is "while the platform independent
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True = 0
SyntaxError: cannot assign to True
del True
SyntaxError: cannot delete True
It almost seems like __debug__ is a hidden keyword value, but with a
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A link to an authoritative reference with the formulas would be necessary to
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Filter, map, and zip are documented as functions to allow other interpreters to
implement them as such, with generator functions. That does not apply here,
but maybe there is another reason for socket being called a 'function.
Antoine, git blame credits
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Should we just remove ' array,' from things that cannot be copied, or does this
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Might want to special case running certain console commands in Shell, such as
'pip install'.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69936921/packages-not-installing-in-idle-shell
SyntaxError: invalid syntax. Perhaps you forgot a comma
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reproducing code, there is nothing we can do. If this or a related problem
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PR-29419 solves the issue in #45717 of not giving a link for _* modules with no
doc. It does not solve this issue of giving the proper link for module that
need non-standard links, which typically need a '#' suffix, as in
'.../library/2to3.html#module
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'System V' is in the first line of the second paragraph of
https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.shared_memory.html
Davin, git blame says you wrote this in Feb 2019.
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The point of the section is that even though the names 'for' and 'bar' are not
directly importing into 'spam', they get attached to 'spam' any way as indirect
effect of 'from'. 'Foo' and 'Bar
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from an IDLE user. 'python' is much rarer. Note that IDLE's shell may be a
beginner's only exposure to the word 'shell'. The standard Windows shell is
the Command Prompt
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Would there be any change at the Python level?
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Eryk, does this or does this not look to you like a bug in CPython? I don't
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This worked for me on main and 3.10. Thanks.
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hyperparser.py, line 13, _ASCII_ID_CHARS
line 15, _ASCII_ID_FIRST_CHARS, frozenset(string.ascii_letters + "_")
Only used on line 18 and 21 to create 128 item lookup tables. The point is to
be fast as hyperparser scans multiple chars wh
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Used in the immediately following def colorize_syntax_error on line 814.
if char and char in self.IDENTCHARS:
text.tag_add("ERROR", pos + " wordstart", pos)
I believe the intent
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undo.py, line 254, alphanumeric
Used in immediately following lines to classify chars as 'alphanumeric',
'newline', or 'punctuation' (the default). I believe I have only ever looked
at this module to add the test code at the bottom. In any case, I don't
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autocomplete.py, line 33, ID_CHARS is only used on line 137 to find the prefix
of an identifier when completions have been explicitly requested.
while i and (curline[i-1] in ID_CHARS or ord(curline[i-1]) > 127):
i -
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'wordchars' is correct here since words beginning with digits can be expanded.
>>> s = '0x4f334'
>>> 0x4f334 # Hit alt-/ after 0 and enter
324404
Used in line 89 in method getprevword
while
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There have been occasional discussions about IDLE not being properly unicode
aware in some of its functions. Discussions have foundered on these facts and
no fix made.
1. The direct replacement string, your 'identcontchars', seems too big. We have
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I checked for other possible ascii only problems and only found
config_key.py: 14: ALPHANUM_KEYS = tuple(string.ascii_lowercase + string.digits)
config_key.py: 39: if 'Shift' in modifiers and key in
string.ascii_lowercase:
config_key.py: 15
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proposal. So +-1 for the moment.
(I opened #45692 to eliminate the duplication in idlelib.)
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Lib/idlelib/autoexpand.py:20:wordchars = string.ascii_letters +
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Lib/idlelib/undo.py:254:al
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By 'it' I meant the comment and 2.6 compatibility you asked about.
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Yes, revise and retest your branch and push it.
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Lukasz, is 'delete it' the no-brainer it seems to be?
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Python has async frameworks other than anyncio. At least one is much older
than asyncio. I think that this proposal to run one by default, on startup,
should be rejected.
>My script must be able to run properly without any special setup.
Then wr
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Current docs:
math.ceil(x)
Return the ceiling of x, the smallest integer greater than or equal to x.
If x is not a float, delegates to x.__ceil__(), which should return an Integral
value.
math.floor(x)
Return the floor of x, the largest integer
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How about: create a fake test file test/test_xintperf with test case and test
method(s) that run timeit with a suite of int operations and print report.
Create 'draft' PRs for main and 3.10 (and 3.9?). Run just this test on
buildbots. (I believe I have
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#43476 is clearly an enhancement request. It proposes to stash info in the GUI
process in a way that lets it be into from the other process by non-standard
means.
This is closer to a bugfix request in that successive lines have a different
response
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The method to run just code in userspace, without involving the debugger or
history list, is runcommand. It needs a code string. The hard part is the
code needed to recreate the exception instance in the user space. It will be
different for SyntaxError
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This is most likely an oversight. It affects both normal and -n mode. The
three sys attributes can be written. Given the error instance e caught in the
IDLE process, we need to execute, *in the user namespace*,
sys.last_type, sys.last_value
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In Windows, I now get the Mark's macOS result instead of the Z.D.Error.
>>> (1.0+0j)**(float('inf') + 0j)
(nan+nanj)
Has there been a revision of complex ** on another issue such that this one is
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_bootstrap_external also appears to be undocumented. It does has
_NamespaceLoader among its 77 entries.
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Or should this be marked for 3.11?
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Can we close this? I expect that if crashes were still happening from this
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Nick, is this issue still needed?
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Close this? As near as I can tell, there is currectly no doc for
importlib._bootstrap ('_bootstrap' neither in Index nor importlib doc). Also,
it does not currently contain NamespaceLoader (not in dir(importlib._bootstrap).
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I presume something like this:
>>> {}.get(vars=1)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
{}.get(vars=1)
TypeError: get() takes no keyword arguments # 3.8+
Report is 3.7.
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As the title suggested, this is a generic help(module) issue that involves
several library modules, including idlelib. It just happened to be reported
for 2to3. For example, the generated text for
import idlelib; help(idlelib)
includes
MODULE
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More specific would be "Inheriting from multiple exceptions may fail due to
instance layout conflicts. Such conflicts may depend on the Python version."
This would effectively say "Don't bother reporting layout conflicts -- we k
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EP, do you have any insight into these issues? Why does 8.6.11 result in test
failures? Bug in our test or in tk?
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Unfortunately, no. The standard stream replacements were renamed to
StdOutputFile, etc, and slightly revised, but the buggy behavior remains. The
worst is that shell restart does not completely restart the shell. It has to
be closed instead.
I would
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I believe standard interpreter only adds '' to path after its startup. But it
might be vulnerable to shadowing of delayed imports.
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I was CC-ed on a response to a user who reported module shadowing as a security
issue. If it is disabled by default, we could add an option to enable for
intentional experiments. See idle.py.
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I emailed the OP reporting the fix, which will be in the next releases of 3.10
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New changeset 42ac06dcd234bdda989dcfe854ac5173337024c9 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'main':
bpo-45495: Add 'case' and 'match' to IDLE completions list. (GH-29000)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/42ac06dcd234bdda989dcfe854ac5173337024c9
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We can add the mac change once it is manually tested on some system. I may try
on my macbook. Windows will be another PR or even issue.
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That is because they are not keywords in keyword.kwlist. But we can add them
to the completion list. Thanks for transferring the report.
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Thanks for the ready-to-go patch.
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New changeset 855d6247adb39d4e38b698b89e519587318abd80 by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.10':
[3.10]bpo-45463: Clarify that global statements allows multiple names
(GH-28851) (GH-28989)
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New changeset ac1b7a3319f268487c310ac7449703193f5eddad by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.9':
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(GH-28990)
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New changeset 4ecd119b007cb766b8bede2dc78b70d29cd932dd by Luca Chiodini in
branch 'main':
bpo-45463: Clarify that global statements allows multiple names (GH-28851)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4ecd119b007cb766b8bede2dc78b70d29cd932dd
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Posting the idea to python-ideas list might generate interest and ideas.
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Suggestion: At the end of https://docs.python.org/3/bugs.html, add
"Creating a subclass that inherits from multiple exceptions may not work and
the potential conflicts may change in new versions."
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I suggest "Lambda expression parameters ...". Keep "Function parameters ..."
for the other.
Note that the first error is adding invalid outer parens, whereas the second is
adding inner parens for sublist.
-
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I believe that translation errors should be reported elsewhere, but I do not
see anything in https://docs.python.org/3/bugs.html. Adding something to the
English version of that doc would be covered here. Julien?
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Did you delete the old installation in the old location first?
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Steve, how do we make it so that "Edit with IDLE" appears when right-clicking
on a .pyi file in Windows explorer? As easy as on mac (see Ronald's answer
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In Paine's failing color test, the returned tuple is The returned tuple is
(0x4a48, 0x3c27, 0x8c91) versus (0x4a4a, 0x3c3c, 0x8c91), which is to say,
nearly correct. Since the tested call is
self._getints(self.tk.call('winfo', 'rgb', self._w, color
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Dower, who is in charge of that for Windows, and Ned Deily, in case anything
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New changeset 380c44087505d0d560f97e325028f27393551164 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'main':
bpo-20692: Add Programming FAQ entry for 1.__class__ error. (GH-28918)
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Whereas to me, 'not shaded' is easily the worst. Users can customize the
sidebar colors, but since the default is the same at the text, I would not want
to deliver IDLE with a scheme that I think is awful.
On Windows, I agree that the light theme border
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Thank you for doing the research.
I have been thinking about adding a file containing idlelib 'leaf' objects,
those with no idlelib dependencies, which are needed in more than one file.
would be to reduce the complexity of the idlelib dependency graph
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No. The last version did not properly incorporate my suggestion, so I will make
a PR that I am willing to merge.
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It should be fairly easy to recognize x.pyi as a python file. Just have to
find the place. Something like
def f(i:int) -> int: ...
would have 'def' and 'int' highlighted.
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