[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-09 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com added the comment: Martin, thanks for the explanation. Hopefully, this tracker entry will serve to permanently document why Python2 on Windows behaves as it does. -- ___ Python tracker

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Nadeem Vawda
Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com added the comment: 64-bit Windows (or at least Visual C++) uses the LLP64 model, so a long is 32 bits wide (the only 64-bit integer type being long long) - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#64-bit_data_models Since Python's int is documented as being

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment: IIRC sys.maxsize was added for this reason. This one should show a 64bit value. -- nosy: +amaury.forgeotdarc ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13965

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Mark Dickinson
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Or more directly, try platform.architecture(). -- nosy: +mark.dickinson ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13965 ___

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Ralf Schmitt python-b...@systemexit.de added the comment: struct.calcsize(P)==8 will tell you if you're running a 64bit python or not. -- nosy: +schmir ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13965

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Ralf Schmitt python-b...@systemexit.de added the comment: according to the documentation platform.architecture() may not work on OS X. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13965

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com added the comment: platform.architecture() and struct.calcsize(P) confirm that this build used 64-bits for pointers and 32-bits for ints. This leaves the question of whether LLP64 is required to run Python on Windows or whether another memory

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment: LLP64 is the model chosen by the Microsoft compiler: sizeof(long)==4. I suppose someone already considered to change PyIntObject and use size_t values, but IMO it would have broken too many extensions: the pattern if

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-08 Thread Martin v . Löwis
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: On Win64, the long type is 32-bit; the compiler does not support any other mode. So the question whether another memory model could have been selected during compilation must be answered as no, the compiler does not support multiple memory

[issue13965] Windows 64-bit installer actually installing a 32-bit version

2012-02-07 Thread Raymond Hettinger
New submission from Raymond Hettinger raymond.hettin...@gmail.com: On the downloader page, http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7.2/ there is an entry •Windows X86-64 MSI Installer that links to http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/python-2.7.2.amd64.msi Running this installer succeeds