John Malmberg added the comment:
Most of the issues needed to build python3 properly on VMS involve either bugs
in the VMS C API that need to be worked around or missing libraries that
Python3 expects to have.
As none of the Python developers should need to care about this, and these
issues
Jesús Cea Avión added the comment:
I think this is a good plan. Legacy platforms can me maintained by interested
parties as a friendly fork.
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Sandeep Mathew added the comment:
It does build with some tweaking here and there. But I ran into runtime
issues. I am sorry, I cannot dedicate time on it further. IMHO anything
built for VMS should use VMS specific API's in the way they are designed
for stability and performance reasons, some
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John Malmberg added the comment:
Does not look like anything vital to VMS got removed.
Configure basically worked under current GNV.
And a few tweaks later with out changing any files checked out of the Mercurial
repository, make is producing a functional python binary before it quits.
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 75b18ff66e41 by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue #16136: VMSError is done, bye bye VMS
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/75b18ff66e41
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Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 48126f225f10 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.4':
Issue #16136: VMSError is done, bye bye VMS
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/48126f225f10
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John Malmberg added the comment:
Encompasserve.org is now back up. It took a little longer than expected.
Should be no issues now in getting free hobby license keys for VMS on VAX,
Alpha, and Itanium by using the web forms.
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Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment:
On 21.12.2013 16:31, Christian Heimes wrote:
All VMS code has been removed except for some code in Lib/platform.py.
MAL:
Do you want to keep the code in the platform module?
The platform.py module is intended to be usable by several Python versions,
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John Malmberg added the comment:
Access to VMS licenses and media:
1. Hobby - non-commercial applications - Free with 1 year time-bombed license
keys with free media download. A self-service mostly web based system.
http://www.openvms.org/pages.php?page=Hobbyist
Easiest way to get a
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 568391b3eda9 by Christian Heimes in branch 'default':
Issue #16136: Remove VMS support and VMS-related code
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/568391b3eda9
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Christian Heimes added the comment:
All VMS code has been removed except for some code in Lib/platform.py.
MAL:
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Christian Heimes added the comment:
Unless somebody says otherwise I'm going to remove VMS-related code over the
course of the next couple of days.
PEP 11 says:
Name: VMS (issue 16136)
Unsupported in: Python 3.3
Code removed in: Python 3.4
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Jesús Cea Avión added the comment:
Possibly relevant:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/10/openvms_death_notice/
http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=13/06/06/2422149
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Sandeep Mathew added the comment:
Sorry for late response. I got delayed , I am working on it .
Regards
Sandeep Mathew
2013/3/9 Jesús Cea Avión rep...@bugs.python.org:
Jesús Cea Avión added the comment:
Ping...
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Ping...
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Sandeep Mathew added the comment:
Hey,
I was given access to HP's open source VMS cluster, Many thanks to HP. I should
be able to continue python development for VMS. I shall ping you guys in case I
get stuck. I should be good to go
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Sandeep Mathew added the comment:
I have asked HP for access to a VMS box so that I restart my work. I initially
checked with the university to see if I can get hold of an Itanium box.
@Trent : If you have HP - UX already running, you may make use of Hyper-V to
get vms running without
Trent Nelson added the comment:
Ah, I forgot about the VOE stuff. That will work a lot better. I'll still
need to acquire VMS media though.
You're not a committer are you? I can sort you out with access to Snakebite
anyway -- email me your ssh key if you're interested (trent at
Trent Nelson added the comment:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:18:03AM -0700, Christian Heimes wrote:
Christian Heimes added the comment:
We don't have any box that is capable of running VMS. Even Trent's
Snakebit setup doesn't have VMS although he has lots of exotic
hardware and OS, even
Sandeep Mathew added the comment:
Hi ,
I love VMS very much, I could not concentrate actively on python
because other work commitments ate up most of my time. I have
left my job at HP and am now a PhD student and university of Nevada ,
Reno . Now that I do not have any professional commitments
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Christian Heimes added the comment:
We don't have any box that is capable of running VMS. Even Trent's Snakebit
setup doesn't have VMS although he has lots of exotic hardware and OS, even
HP-UX on a PA-RISC machine.
It seems to be possible to run VMS on a cluster of RaspberryPi machines [1].
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
I'm in contact with Sysgroup, a french company which ported Python 2 on VMS.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
If they ported Python 2 on VMS, even though Python 2 is already supposed to
work on Python 2, it means our compatibility code is broken.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
(correction: Python 2 is already supposed to work on VMS)
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Charles-François Natali added the comment:
After the blog post, Mathew, Sandeep from HP asked how to help:
It was more than a year ago.
Has something actually be done?
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Jesús Cea Avión added the comment:
I am sending an email to Mathew Sandeep. Lets see...
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Jesús Cea Avión added the comment:
sandeep.mat...@hp.com: host smtp.hp.com[15.193.32.72] said: 550 5.1.1
sandeep.mat...@hp.com: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
virtual alias table (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Looks like he is not in HP anymore. Searching in linkedin I think
New submission from Jesús Cea Avión:
According to PEP-11, we have to remove VMS support.
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
Python on VMS is maybe not completly dead:
http://www.vmspython.org/History
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
See also:
http://blog.python.org/2011/05/python-33-to-drop-support-for-os2.html
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
After the blog post, Mathew, Sandeep from HP asked how to help:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2011-May/111367.html
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
Another email from Mathew, Sandeep:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2011-May/111382.html
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Trent Nelson added the comment:
FWIW, I have another Itanium box that I've earmarked for OpenVMS. I don't
believe the installation media is readily available for free, though, so I'd
need to ping HP to try arrange a copy.
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