[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-05-02 Thread Marc Abramowitz
Marc Abramowitz added the comment: Well my thought is that the configuration file has defaults that a user may want to override at runtime using an environment variable or command-line switch. I guess as SilentGhost pointed out, maybe this is not the responsibility of the ConfigParser as

[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-05-02 Thread Łukasz Langa
Łukasz Langa added the comment: Having both `defaults` and `overrides` would confuse the API, especially given that we already have `fallback` arguments to `get*` methods. What's the point of having overrides *over* a file? Defaults were thought of as a way to say: "unless the user bothered

[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-04-07 Thread Marc Abramowitz
Marc Abramowitz added the comment: So I think changing the behavior of `defaults` might break backwards compatibility for folks who are relying on the old behavior. So I guess I would propose adding a new parameter called `overrides`. These would take precedence over `defaults` and that

[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-04-07 Thread Marc Abramowitz
Marc Abramowitz added the comment: Some more info on the logging example I gave. So here is a program called `my_app.py`: ``` import os import logging.config logging.config.fileConfig('logging.ini', defaults=os.environ) logger = logging.getLogger(__name__) logger.debug('debug msg')

[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-04-07 Thread SilentGhost
SilentGhost added the comment: You can override the level if an environmental variable was defined. Not sure why it needs to be responsibility of the ConfigParser. While I'm not going to immediately close this issue, I don't think such a backward-incompatible proposal is viable. --

[issue26710] ConfigParser: Values in DEFAULT section override defaults passed to constructor

2016-04-07 Thread Marc Abramowitz
New submission from Marc Abramowitz: My expectation was that any defaults I passed to ConfigParser when creating one would override values in the DEFAULT section of the config file. This is because I'd like the DEFAULT section to have the default values, but then I want to be able to override